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Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington UA = 5.732M, 1746.9 sq mi
Denton-Lewisville UA = 429k, 150.48 sq mi
McKinney-Frisco UA = 504k, 151.64 sq mi
The 3 combine is ~6.6M at ~2050 sq mi. There are a few smaller areas (i.e. Cleburne, Midlothian, Ennis, Terrell, Forney, etc.) that I didn't add in but are definitely still the metroplex.
The bottom line is that for DFW, while the MSA area is quite large, the population number isn't exactly as inflated as people make it to be. DFW feels and is a metro area with ~7M and growing.
If it is bigger than all of them, which weight class would you say it is closer to:
(SF, Boston, DC) or
(Miami, Atlanta, Houston)?
To be fair, even Miami shouldn’t be named by itself like Atlanta and Houston. Miami is very much like Dallas I’m this sense. Both have two secondary but extremely important cities.
They just updated it in July again...but the number are from 2020 IIRC.
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Originally Posted by manitopiaaa
Yeah, a while back. They just carved up more urban areas (the opposite of what this forum wanted), so it was quickly expunged from memory.
Some Urban areas are just ridiculous...I mean, do they really have to separate out things like "Denton Southwest" (which is basically those development along I-35W between Fort Worth and Denton). Places like Lewisville and McKinney is separated from Dallas/Fort Worth for no reason - the latter literally are just places that's across Sam Rayburn Tollway and looks identical. You mean there's that big of a drastic change between those neighborhoods in Allen, TX south of the tollway and those in McKinney north of the tollway?
It did make Urban Area calculation more complicated - basically have to go back and forth on the urban area map and Google Map if I'm not 100% familiar with an area.
They just updated it in July again...but the number are from 2020 IIRC.
Some Urban areas are just ridiculous...I mean, do they really have to separate out things like "Denton Southwest" (which is basically those development along I-35W between Fort Worth and Denton). Places like Lewisville and McKinney is separated from Dallas/Fort Worth for no reason - the latter literally are just places that's across Sam Rayburn Tollway and looks identical. You mean there's that big of a drastic change between those neighborhoods in Allen, TX south of the tollway and those in McKinney north of the tollway?
It did make Urban Area calculation more complicated - basically have to go back and forth on the urban area map and Google Map if I'm not 100% familiar with an area.
I see it differently.
I don't think those areas were "separated out"
Each update the DFW UA gets larger and larger in population and area as more of the metro qualify for the UA.
The areas that are not included were not separated out, they just haven't made whatever criteria they didn't make.
They just updated it in July again...but the number are from 2020 IIRC.
Some Urban areas are just ridiculous...I mean, do they really have to separate out things like "Denton Southwest" (which is basically those development along I-35W between Fort Worth and Denton). Places like Lewisville and McKinney is separated from Dallas/Fort Worth for no reason - the latter literally are just places that's across Sam Rayburn Tollway and looks identical. You mean there's that big of a drastic change between those neighborhoods in Allen, TX south of the tollway and those in McKinney north of the tollway?
It did make Urban Area calculation more complicated - basically have to go back and forth on the urban area map and Google Map if I'm not 100% familiar with an area.
Yeah this always confused me. I get that, going up on I35E, there is some emptiness from Carrollton to Lewisville, but it seems pretty consistent going from Coppell to Lewisville. I would like to see the numbers for the specific region keeping them seperated.
Dallas and Fort Worth rose up together. They helped each other become major.
Baltimore was already major before DC was thought of.
Sure there are factors that helped the 2 surrounding areas to CONTINUE to grow.
Dallas and Fort Worth growing together and becoming major together gives them more common identity. DC and Baltimore are more independent in identity.
Not only that, but they don’t seem to have a unified cultural feel, and don’t particularly feel like they’re moving in lockstep with each other. Their proximity feels incidental.
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