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View Poll Results: "American dream"- what state comes to mind?
NY/NJ 21 12.50%
Ohio 40 23.81%
Illinois 8 4.76%
Virginia 6 3.57%
North Carolina 6 3.57%
Georgia 8 4.76%
Florida 8 4.76%
Texas 24 14.29%
Arizona 9 5.36%
California 30 17.86%
Another state 8 4.76%
Voters: 168. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-05-2023, 03:25 PM
 
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What state fits the American suburbia stereotype most?
By that, I mean working class/middle class family, married couple 2 kids and a dog, house in the suburbs, white picket fence, a image that was present most in the 1950s-80s but can still be seen today. When I think of that, I think of 1950s Cleveland and modern Columbus Ohio, but also California Texas NJ and suburban Chicago, or in a broader sense Great Lakes cities during the 40s 50s 60s or modern day Sunbelt. Most sitcoms from the 70s-2000s show this to a certain degree, Home Improvement, According to Jim, That 70s show, Family Matters, Fresh Prince, Growing Pains etc. What states/metro areas come to mind for you?

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Old 08-05-2023, 03:53 PM
 
Location: West Midlands, England
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Politics of Chicagoland are too liberal, same with the Cleveland suburbs and anywhere in California. I think the St. Louis suburbs (especially the ones on the Illinois side) are a very good fit. So too are Cincinnati’s northern suburbs. They have a strong historical identity that has remained strong to the present. On the whole though, I’d go with the answer most people probably would; Ohio.
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Old 08-05-2023, 04:06 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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This describes most suburbs except for the ones with prominent drug problems, poverty, etc., or inner-ring dense suburbs or quasi-rural exurbs.

I guess the Great Lakes and Northeast metros are the most segregated so they probably fit this the best. Or affluent suburban enclaves like Scottsdale, AZ; Ventura County, CA; eastern King County, WA; and most of Salt Lake City's (southern/eastern) suburbs.
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Old 08-05-2023, 04:19 PM
 
Location: West Midlands, England
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This describes most suburbs except for the ones with prominent drug problems, poverty, etc., or inner-ring dense suburbs or quasi-rural exurbs.

I guess the Great Lakes and Northeast metros are the most segregated so they probably fit this the best. Or affluent suburban enclaves like Scottsdale, AZ; Ventura County, CA; eastern King County, WA; and most of Salt Lake City's (southern/eastern) suburbs.
Don't many places across the country presently struggle with drug problems and poverty though?
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Old 08-05-2023, 05:44 PM
 
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I mean the ideal suburban American image for most people is either Levittown (thought most people wouldn’t know it was in NY) or a Hollywood sound stage. Otherwise I’d just say Ohio for being general average topography and suburbia nature.
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Old 08-05-2023, 08:30 PM
 
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NY and NJ burbs, but these burbs close to the city are very dense, and walkable.
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Old 08-05-2023, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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My first thought would be any of the fictional towns in which Leave It to Beaver, Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet, The Donna Reed Show, The Brady Bunch, etc., etc. etc. were set.

In today's world, I don't know of any "American Dream" suburbs, although I guess they are out there, but most of the modern suburbs I've seen appear to be too crowded (homes too close together) or too sterile or too cookie-cutter for my liking.
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Old 08-05-2023, 09:12 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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NY and NJ burbs, but these burbs close to the city are very dense, and walkable.
Different eras.

I think this represents pre-WWII American suburbia, while contemporary American suburbia is defined by isolated, all SFH developments with culd-de-sacs, and grandiose street names to create an artificial sense of prestige.
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Old 08-05-2023, 10:03 PM
 
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Ohio and Illinois.
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Old 08-05-2023, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Shawnee-on-Delaware, PA
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Different eras.

I think this represents pre-WWII American suburbia, while contemporary American suburbia is defined by isolated, all SFH developments with culd-de-sacs, and grandiose street names to create an artificial sense of prestige.
That sounds like the exurbs to me.

Where I grew up in NJ in the 1960's-70's, the houses were mostly pre-1930 and all the streets had sidewalks, and there were stores to walk to and buses to take downtown if you wanted. In other words, it's what today's younger generation dreams of. There are still sections of towns that are like that, and they're not new construction.
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