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The thing is, Georgia is in worse than California in this regard. It's easier to have some self sufficient farmstead in Georgia so that masks the issue that Atlanta with it's massive size is completely unsustainable without water being pumped in from Alabama and oil and gas being piped in from the Permian or wherever else.
What is the world are you talking about? Atlanta does not "pump in" water from Alabama. Georgia's water flows downstream towards Alabama. The lawsuits with Alabama are over the 5-10% or so of the water that Georgia consumes before it hits the state line.
In a Mad Max scenario where states stop trading with each other, or whatever the point of this thread is, water is definitely not going to be Georgia's problem.
What is the world are you talking about? Atlanta does not "pump in" water from Alabama. Georgia's water flows downstream towards Alabama. The lawsuits with Alabama are over the 5-10% or so of the water that Georgia consumes before it hits the state line.
In a Mad Max scenario where states stop trading with each other, or whatever the point of this thread is, water is definitely not going to be Georgia's problem.
Yeah, Alabama and Florida are the ones that wanted Georgia's water. They're on the receiving end from Georgia.
Mississippi is developing itself into a center for so-called green hydrogen. They are building the nation's first green steel plant (i.e. steel made with green hydrogen rather than with coal) outside of Hattiesburg.
The reason for this location is that the area has underground salt caverns that are ideal for storing massive amounts of hydrogen safely underground. Factories such as the steel plant will be setting up right next to the stored hydrogen to use as their green energy source.
The green hydrogen will be produced on the Mississippi coast (made from water apparently) and transported via natural gas pipelines to be stored in the salt caverns outside Hattiesburg. The hydrogen is considered green because when made from water, carbon is not released into the air.
Amazon is also constructing a $10 billion data center in metro Jackson, which apparently is needed to accommodate the huge amount of computer space that will soon be utilized by artificial intelligence.
Amazon chose Mississippi because their economic development team was able to offer all the key deliverables needed for the project, which include massive amounts of daily water usage (needed for continuously cooling the computers apparently), electricity usage (including from solar farms being built just for the project), and land.
The state is also subsidizing things like road construction and water/sewer to the work site and investing in job training centers for the project.
What is the world are you talking about? Atlanta does not "pump in" water from Alabama. Georgia's water flows downstream towards Alabama. The lawsuits with Alabama are over the 5-10% or so of the water that Georgia consumes before it hits the state line.
In a Mad Max scenario where states stop trading with each other, or whatever the point of this thread is, water is definitely not going to be Georgia's problem.
It's the same way out west, Colorado would have 0 water concerns if they could drain all their rivers dry too, but that's not how it works.
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Originally Posted by brickpatio2018
Mississippi is developing itself into a center for so-called green hydrogen. They are building the nation's first green steel plant (i.e. steel made with green hydrogen rather than with coal) outside of Hattiesburg.
The reason for this location is that the area has underground salt caverns that are ideal for storing massive amounts of hydrogen safely underground. Factories such as the steel plant will be setting up right next to the stored hydrogen to use as their green energy source.
The green hydrogen will be produced on the Mississippi coast (made from water apparently) and transported via natural gas pipelines to be stored in the salt caverns outside Hattiesburg. The hydrogen is considered green because when made from water, carbon is not released into the air.
Amazon is also constructing a $10 billion data center in metro Jackson, which apparently is needed to accommodate the huge amount of computer space that will soon be utilized by artificial intelligence.
Amazon chose Mississippi because their economic development team was able to offer all the key deliverables needed for the project, which include massive amounts of daily water usage (needed for continuously cooling the computers apparently), electricity usage (including from solar farms being built just for the project), and land.
The state is also subsidizing things like road construction and water/sewer to the work site and investing in job training centers for the project.
Data centers can either use evaporative water or refrigerant cooling. One uses a lot of water and the other uses more energy. It's cool that the constrictions on space all over the nation are finally bringing the development outside of the major metros, the industry is basically plopping in a site anywhere anyone will say yes. Mississippi does have a lot of solar potential, but it means that a pretty biodiverse forest can't grow in its place vs the barren west where not much was going on before the panels. I think green hydro means it was made with renewable power, one of the aspects we'll have to figure out in order to use stored energy more efficiently.
The solar farms are being built in the Mississippi Delta, presumably on open farm land.
I wouldn't be surprised though if as part of the deal they are restoring some other land in the Delta region back to hardwood forest and wetlands. That's a big movement in the Mississippi Delta already.
Regarding the green hydrogen, I think you are right that (I think I read this) perhaps the making of the initial hydrogen does send carbon into the air, but once they've made the initial batch of hydrogen, going forward they can use the newly-made hydrogen for energy in making the additional hydrogen after that first batch, which means no carbon in the air after the first batch of hydrogen was made using some other type of energy. Or something...I need to reread all that...
Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas have large amounts of offshore oil and gas, plenty of natural resources, the only problem is when liberals and Democrats want to restrict our right to develop these resources.
Yeah well they also get tons of sun that solar panels can use, more efficient and renewable.
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