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I am very fascinated by the small sub regions of larger MSAs that do very well in UA rankings--
Urban Areas by Median Income, 2-Earner Families, 2022($150,000+)
$250,000+-Livermore-Pleasanton-Dublin, CA
$238,772--San Jose, CA
$230,933--Concord-Walnut Creek, CA
$207,647--Boulder, CO
$206,657--San Francisco-Oakland, CA
$205,485--Lafayette-Erie-Louisville, CO
$193,329--Mission Viejo-Lake Forest-Laguna Niguel, CA
$182,134--Washington, DC-VA-MD
$181,584--Castle Rock, CO
$181,438--Santa Cruz, CA
$172,461--Gilroy-Morgan Hill, CA
$172,258--Thousand Oaks, CA
$169,300--Davis, CA
$168,530--Saratoga Springs, NY
$167,609--Napa, CA
$165,439--Boston, MA-NH
$163,801--Frederick, MD
$162,914--Bridgeport-Stamford, CT
$162,893--Seattle-Tacoma, WA
$162,627--McKinney-Frisco, TX
$161,379--Simi Valley, CA
$158,600--Santa Barbara, CA
$157,046--Charlottesville, VA
$158,075--The Woodlands, TX
$150,435--Santa Clarita, CA
Just to show how some urban areas can be quite misleading.
For instance, Lafayette-Erie-Louisville CO and Castle Rock CO are essentially wealthy outer suburbs of Denver, Livermore, Concord and Gilroy (and to lesser extent, Napa) are definitely part of greater SF Bay Area, and to this day I still don't understand why Frisco is a separate urban area from Dallas when there is zero separations (unlike the Denver or SF outer burb which does have some undeveloped separation).
And of course I knew Frederick would make the list . Makes me feel poor since I don't even make the median...
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criteria:
1. UA with 100,000+ adults with a bachelor degree or higher
2. Bachelor Degree rate of 30% or higher
2022 Urban Areas by the % of Adults Age 25 or older with a Bachelor Degree or Higher:
65.2%--Livermore-Pleasanton-Dublin, CA
60.6%--Concord-Walnut Creek, CA
59.4%--Durham, NC
58.9%--Madison, WI
58.5%--San Jose, CA
57.6%--Washington, DC-VA-MD
57.5%--Ann Arbor, MI
57.2%--McKinney-Frisco, TX
57.1%--Raleigh, NC
55.4%--Austin, TX
54.3%--Mission Viejo-Lake Forest-Laguna Niguel, CA
53.9%--San Francisco-Oakland, CA
52.1%--Ft Collins, CO
51.3%--Boston, MA-NH
50.2%--The Woodlands, TX
49.2%--Charlotte, NC-SC
49.1%--Huntsville, AL
49.0%--Denton-Lewisville, TX
48.9%--Denver-Aurora, CO
48.8%--Nashville, TN
48.5%--Seattle-Tacoma, WA
48.3%--Bridgeport-Stamford, CT-NY
48.1%--Minneapolis-St Paul, MN
48.0%--Barnstable Town, MA
47.5%--Boise, ID
46.0%--Provo-Orem, UT
45.1%--Richmond, VA
45.0%--Atlanta, GA
44.5%--Bonita Springs-Estero, FL
44.4%--Columbus, OH 44.3%--Baltimore, MD
43.8%--Des Moines, IA
43.8%--New York-Jersey City-Newark, NY-NJ
43.8%--Portland, OR-WA
43.7%--San Diego, CA
42.9%--Columbia, SC
42.8%--Birmingham, AL
42.8%--Pittsburgh, PA
42.7%--Charleston, SC
42.6%--Colorado Springs, CO
42.6%--Philadelphia, PA-NJ-DE-MD
42.4%--Albany-Schenectady, NY
42.4%--Trenton, NJ
42.3%--Chicago, IL-IN
42.1%--St Louis, MO
42.0%--Kansas City, MO-KS
41.5%--Indianapolis, IN
41.2%--Worcester, MA-CT
40.9%--Omaha, NE-IA
40.8%--Rochester, NY
40.7%--Cincinnati, OH-KY
40.7%--Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers, AK-MO
40.5%--Grand Rapids, MI
40.3%--New Haven, CT
40.3%--Orlando, FL
39.7%--Harrisburg, PA
39.6%--Hartford, CT
39.5%--Milwaukee, WI
39.3%--Bradenton-Sarasota-Venice, FL
38.9%--Salt Lake City, UT
38.9%--Syracuse, NY
38.6%--Dallas-Ft Worth-Arlington, TX
38.1%--Cleveland, OH
37.9%--Greenville, SC
37.8%--Albuquerque, NM
37.8%--Winston-Salem, NC
37.7%--Palm Bay-Melbourne, FL
37.7%--Tucson, AZ
37.4%--Knoxville, TN
37.3%--Providence, RI-MA
37.2%--Miami-Ft Lauderdale, FL
37.1%--Buffalo, NY
36.9%--Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA
36.8%--Houston, TX
36.8%--Louisville, KY-IN
36.8%--Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ
36.8%--Tampa-St Petersburg, FL
36.7%--Honolulu, HI
36.6%--Jacksonville, FL
36.4%--Chattanooga, TN-GA
36.1%--Lancaster-Manheim, PA
36.0%--Little Rock, AR
36.0%--Sacramento, CA
35.7%--Ogden-Layton, UT
35.1%--Dayton, OH
35.0%--Detroit, MI
34.7%--Baton Rouge, LA
34.7%--New Orleans, LA
34.7%--Oklahoma City, OK
34.7%--Virginia Beach-Norfolk, VA
34.2%--Spokane, WA
34.1%--Tulsa, OK
33.8%--Wichita, KS
33.6%--Memphis, TN-MS-AR
32.8%--Allentown-Bethlehem, PA-NJ
32.4%--San Antonio, TX
31.3%--Toledo, OH-MI
30.2%--Port St Lucie, FL
Very few people would guess that Baltimore is a higher educated urban area than New York, Philadelphia, and Chicago.
Very few people would guess that Baltimore is a higher educated urban area than New York, Philadelphia, and Chicago.
It makes more sense when you take Johns Hopkins into account. It's similar as to why Birmingham (UAB) and Richmond (VCU biotech) are probably higher than people would think, too. It's honestly more surprising that Cleveland is so low, since I mentally batch these all with Pittsburgh as roughly similar economically (I also group Louisville in there too, but it doesn't have a medical research university as a major employer). Overall, though, the historic union-heavy cities tend to be lower than expected (not blue collar southwest low, but still low).
Urban Areas by Owner-Occupied Housing Units Valued at $1,000,000+,2022:
646,355--Los Angeles-Long Beach-Anaheim, CA
522,199--New York-Jersey City-Newark, NY-NJ
411,906--San Francisco-Oakland, CA
254,605--San Jose, CA
230,344--Seattle-Tacoma, WA
198,482--San Diego, CA
172,846--Washington, DC-VA-MD
163,346--Boston, MA-NH
137,146--Miami-Ft Lauderdale, FL
89,513---Mission Viejo-Lake Forest-Laguna Niguel, CA
87,313---Concord-Walnut Creek, CA
74,344---Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ
70,552---Chicago, IL-IN
69,130---Denver-Aurora, CO
58,216---Honolulu, HI
57,083---Dallas-Ft Worth-Arlington, TX
50,551---Atlanta, GA
49,350---Austin, TX
44,166---Livemore-Pleasanton-Dublin, CA
41,129---Houston, TX
40,353---Bridgeport-Stamford, CT
36,806---Tampa-St Petersburg, FL
36,498---Philadelphia, PA-NJ-DE
33,563---Portland, OR-WA
33,374---Sacramento, CSA
32,220---Nashville, TN
30,651---Bonita Springs-Estero, FL
25,491---Charlotte, NC-SC
24,888---Thousand Oaks, CA
23,643---Salt Lake City, UT
23,641---Bradenton-Sarasota-Venice, FL
23,008---Santa Barbara, CA
22,507---Santa Cruz, CA
22,135---Minneapolis-St Paul, MN
20,439---Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV
18,041---Orlando, FL
17,004---Riverside-San Bernardino, CA
16,849---Baltimore, MD
16,242---Charleston, SC
15,867---Kailua-Kaneohe, HI
15,015---Raleigh, NC
14,021---Detroit, MI
14,013---Barnstable Town, MA
13,941---Jacksonville, FL
13,021---Gilroy-Morgan Hill, CA
12,541---Boulder, CO
12,333---Indio-Palm Desert-Palm Springs, CA
11,259---Boise, ID
10,308---Santa Clarita, CA
9,854----Santa Rosa, CA
9,528----Oxnard-San Buenaventura, CA
9,402----Reno, NV
9,118----Seaside-Monterey-Pacific Grove, CA
8,889----Providence, RI-MA
8,604----Provo-Orem, UT
8,207----McKinney-Frisco, TX
7,851----Kansas City, MO-KS
7,374----Antioch, CA
7,277----Virginia Beach-Norfolk, VA
7,016----Bremerton, WA
7,014----New Orleans, LA
6,748----Cape Coral, FL
6,543----Atlantic City-Ocean City-Villas, NJ
6,431----Bend, OR
6,404----Napa, CA
6,292----Indianapolis, IN
5,863----Ogden-Layton, UT
5,726----The Woodlands, TX
5,721----Columbus, OH
5,588----Tucson, AZ
5,585----Palm Bay-Melbourne, FL
5,578----Pittsburgh, PA
5,513----Temecula-Murrieta-Menifee, CA
5,342----Bluffton East-Hilton Head Island, SC
5,076----Birmingham, AL
5,018----Vero Beach-Sebastian, FL
Very few people would guess that Baltimore is a higher educated urban area than New York, Philadelphia, and Chicago.
It is not that surprising, a matter of size anyway - Baltimore UA is a lot smaller than the other three and thus, simply has less areas (In Baltimore's case, main the city itself plus a few inner suburbs especially along the Bay) that move the average down.
I would say the best comparison would be with UA like Portland OR.
It is not that surprising, a matter of size anyway - Baltimore UA is a lot smaller than the other three and thus, simply has less areas (In Baltimore's case, main the city itself plus a few inner suburbs especially along the Bay) that move the average down.
I would say the best comparison would be with UA like Portland OR.
The Baltimore urban area is ~150 sq/mi larger than Portland and is closer to SD/Denver in geographic size.
It's always been an educated MSA/UA for the same reason DC's is. Maryland & NoVA are some of the most educated areas outside of Mass & the Bay Area.
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It is not that surprising, a matter of size anyway - Baltimore UA is a lot smaller than the other three and thus, simply has less areas (In Baltimore's case, main the city itself plus a few inner suburbs especially along the Bay) that move the average down.
I would say the best comparison would be with UA like Portland OR.
Not a surprise to me at all, in fact I probably would have guessed it in my head. Just saying it's funny how general public perception of places would have others thinking Baltimore's should be lower on the list.
Not a surprise to me at all, in fact I probably would have guessed it in my head. Just saying it's funny how general public perception of places would have others thinking Baltimore's should be lower on the list.
Yeah...and people often act all surprise about the Median Income numbers of the Urban/Metro area also. Meanwhile Howard, AA, Carroll, and Harford Co all have MHI >$100k (although the latter two are not really part of the Urban Area, Carroll Co now have 3 large UA in Sykesville/Eldersburg, Westminster, and Manchester/Hampstead plus Taneytown further out, Harford mainly part of Aberdeen/Bel Air UA).
One thing that doesn't help is how much of a standout DC UA is - the 57% number is above that of Austin, Raleigh, and SF (excluding San Jose).
Those are mostly Puerto Ricans right? they wouldn't count.
By legal definition, they wouldn't, but it's still people emigrating from a territory 2,000 miles away.
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. Makes me feel poor since I don't even make the median...
