2023 American Community Survey (ACS) 1-year data release (apartments, rent stabilized apartments)

[mhays25]

Less in 2022 than 2021?

[18Montclair]

Thank you for creating this thread--

This is by cities proper

----------------------2022 Median Income
City-----------------Household--2-Earner Families
San Francisco, CA----$136,692--$239,919
San Jose, CA---------$133,835--$198,355
Seattle, WA----------$115,409--$216,551
Washington, DC-------$101,027--$216,685
San Diego, CA--------$100,010--$143,570
Oakland, CA-----------$93,146--$190,867
Austin, TX------------$89,415--$153,960
Denver, CO------------$88,213--$157,346
Boston, MA------------$86,331--$166,744
Atlanta, GA-----------$83,251--$167,673
Portland, OR----------$81,119--$152,207
Long Beach, CA--------$80,493--$124,078
Mesa, AZ--------------$79,496--$104,371
Colorado Springs, CA--$78,568--$117,455
Los Angeles, CA-------$76,135--$114,459
Phoenix, AZ-----------$75,969--$106,254
Raleigh, NC-----------$75,494--$138,842
New York, NY----------$74,694--$122,825
Minneapolis, MN-------$74,473--$144,304
Charlotte, NC---------$74,401--$133,756
Nashville, TN---------$71,767--$122,381
Fort Worth TX---------$71,527--$108,730
Tampa, FL-------------$71,069--$128,750
Arlington, TX---------$71,433--$103,972
Chicago, IL-----------$70,386--$130,297
Jacksonville, FL------$69,306--$106,695
Las Vegas, NV---------$68,905--$103,631
Omaha, NE-------------$67,450--$114,532
Dallas, TX------------$65,400--$100,522
Albuquerque, NM-------$64,757--$110,090
Fresno, CA------------$64,195---$95,342
Oklahoma City, OK-----$63,713--$103,728
Louisville, KY--------$63,049--$108,416
Kansas City, MO-------$62,175--$114,957
Columbus, OH----------$61,727--$103,956
Indianapolis, IN------$61,501--$101,017
Miami, FL-------------$60,989---$97,993
Houston, TX-----------$60,426--$102,271
San Antonio, TX-------$58,829---$91,234
Philadelphia, PA------$56,517--$102,110
Baltimore, MD---------$55,198--$108,726
El Paso, TX-----------$52,645---$76,992
New Orleans, LA-------$52,322--$122,947
Tucson, AZ------------$51,281---$92,391
Memphis, TN-----------$50,622---$95,377
Milwaukee, WI---------$49,270---$87,258
Detroit, MI-----------$36,453---$76,753

[atadytic19]

How can NY afford to be that low

[18Montclair]

The Bay Area's Black population can't be explained by looking at just the numbers for SF proper-there is a real diaspora going on in NorCal.

B02009 BLACK OR AFRICAN AMERICAN ALONE OR IN COMBINATION WITH ONE OR MORE OTHER RACES
CSA------------2022----2018
Sac CSA----242,026--225,706
Bay CSA----691,099--647,273
Total--------933,125--870,979

[Joakim3]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

How can NY afford to be that low

Because the city has 9 million people.

Manhattan’s medium income is ~$151k but that alone is not enough to offset the 7.5 million people living in the other 4 boroughs that aren’t swimming in tech, banking/investment money.

[Duderino]

Originally Posted by Joakim3

Because the city has 9 million people.

Manhattan’s medium income is ~$151k but that alone is not enough to offset the 7.5 million people living in the other 4 boroughs that aren’t swimming in tech, banking/investment money.

Exactly. Perceptions about wealth in the NYC are easily the most skewed of any city in the US. Miami and Los Angeles would round out the Top 3.

Despite the images they portray, these are all generally pretty working-class cities.

[the resident09]

DC propping up the East per usual...

[18Montclair]

1. Connecticut has formally requested that they stop measuring data by counties, but instead by 'planning regions'--so you will see Western CT, CT in this list, that's basically the southern most part of Fairfield, CT and a small area of Litchfield, CT.
https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...of-connecticut

2. I bolded any county with a value of $200,000+

3. I included NY, NY because someone always asks.


County-------------------Median Income, 2022--------
--------------------------Household----2-Earner Families:
$100,000+
Loudoun, VA------------$167,531----$207,624
Santa Clara, CA--------$150,839-----$232,340
San Mateo, CA---------$145,388-----$234,959
Fairfax, VA---------------$145,164----$210,715
Hunterdon, NJ----------$142,518----$179,826
Douglas, CO------------$140,003-----$172,585
Stafford, VA-------------$138,378----$161,087
Nassau, NY--------------$136,984----$178,908
San Francisco, CA------$136,692-----$239,919
Marin, CA-----------------$136,214----$244,906
Somerset, NJ------------$135,577----$186,397
Howard, MD-------------$133,438----$199,861
Arlington, VA------------$132,380----$229,546
Morris, NJ-----------------$131,795----$185,501
Fauquier, VA--------------$130,261---$161,060
Forsyth, GA---------------$129,410----$172,920
Williamson, TN-----------$129,275----$164,275
Rockwall, TX--------------$123,767----$152,290
Western CT, CT-----------$122,234----$194,531
Alameda, CA------------$122,159-----$205,087
Prince William, VA-------$120,398----$153,715
Calvert, MD---------------$120,097----$148,727
Contra Costa, CA---------$120,061----$177,292
Suffolk, NY----------------$119,838----$159,540
Frederick, MD------------$119,122----$164,034
Delaware, OH------------$119,030----$171,926
Middlesex, MA-----------$118,800----$186,436
Montgomery, MD--------$118,323---$187,966
Monmouth, NJ-----------$118,194----$163,786
Chester, PA---------------$117,232---$161,202
York, VA------------------$116,524----$147,015
King, WA------------------$116,255----$189,035
Carver, MN----------------$116,158----$160,920
Norfolk, MA--------------$115,969-----$186,738
Charles, MD--------------$115,880-----$154,250
Broomfield, CO---------$115,833-----$171,943
Oldham, KY---------------$115,187-----$154,632
Hamilton, IN-------------$114,807-----$167,959
Bergen, NJ----------------$114,332-----$170,153
St Marys, MD------------$113,717-----$177,578
Sussex, NJ---------------$113,640----$142,839
Scott, MN-----------------$113,311----$149,744
Collin, TX-----------------$113,305----$159,569
Anne Arundel, MD-----$113,125----$161,482
Alexandria, VA-----------$111,955----$197,989
San Benito, CA-----------$111,544----$132,753
Putnam, NY---------------$111,102----$162,238
Fayette, GA---------------$108,643----$153,797
Westchester, NY---------$108,144----$179,225
Rockingham, NH--------$107,442----$154,270
Montgomery, PA--------$106,811----$157,706
Orange, CA----------------$106,209----$149,263
El Dorado, CA------------$105,982-----$165,268
Placer, CA------------------$105,445-----$161,494
Bucks, PA------------------$105,398-----$157,236
Fort Bend, TX-------------$105,205-----$139,829
Dallas, IA-------------------$105,132-----$169,003
Carroll, MD----------------$104,942-----$151,944
Union, OH-----------------$104,195-----$132,872
Davis, UT-------------------$103,563----$127,502
Hanover, VA---------------$103,370----$147,428
Plymouth, MA---------=---$103,173----$149,637
St Johns, FL----------------$103,017-----$144,595
Jefferson, CO-------------$102,731-----$157,070
Ventura, CA---------------$102,569-----$140,226
Denton, TX----------------$102,428-----$146,989
Middlesex, NJ------------$102,400-----$143,518
Geauga, OH--------------$102,350-----$143,503
DuPage, IL----------------$102,152------$155,153
Santa Cruz, CA-----------$102,146-----$153,013
Boone, IN------------------$102,005-----$153,360
Snohomish, WA----------$101,532------$144,696
Kendall, IL----------------$101,447------$123,551
Lake, IL------------------$101,442-----$143,028
Williamson, TX----------$101,323-----$138,735
Washington, DC--------$101,027-----$216,685
Harford, MD--------------$100,915-----$149,135
Chesterfield, VA---------$100,702-----$136,811
Burlington, NJ------------$100,478-----$142,568
Washington, RI----------$100,459-----$138,550
Rockland, NJ--------------$100,397-----$155,897
Napa, CA-----------------$100,318-----$155,226
Livingston, MI-----------$100,139-----$141,663

New York, NY----------------$95,866---$219,021

[NigerianNightmare]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

How can NY afford to be that low

New Yorkers generally live below their means. Also it’s a massive place. The Bronx, significant part of Queens and a substantial part of Brooklyn/Staten Island isn’t that crazy expensive. Also rent-control + no car helps alleviate a significant amount of the costs. Unlike some other metros the immigrant population of New York still has a strong city tilt to it. Also a city of renters will generally be able to afford more or be more flexible than a city of homeowners. Which allows people to thrive in much wealthier areas.

[NigerianNightmare]

Originally Posted by Duderino

Exactly. Perceptions about wealth in the NYC are easily the most skewed of any city in the US. Miami and Los Angeles would round out the Top 3.

Despite the images they portray, these are all generally pretty working-class cities.

Very much so. But also take in mind some trends are delayed. LA is so expensive for homes that there’s a strong possibility that given 20 years the working class Latino and Black population will be replaced by Asians and generally more upwardly mobile Hispanics and Black folks in a significant portion of the city.