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Old 11-19-2023, 10:36 AM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Really, you can't picture it? You may need to get outside your bubble a bit and hear from folks who've made the move. Here's but one example to help you get started: https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/...a-17699966.php
Won't be subscribing to that paper to read an anecdotal article about.....a person who moved.

My point is that thinking "I'm not having luck in the most economically productive state, I'll see what I can find in the 48th most productive state" is not a logical train of thought, if we're to believe "jobs" is the primary impetus for CA to MT moves.
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Old 11-19-2023, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Southern MN
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There is something to that ancient urge to relocate following a dream or hope. For some that may be less tangible than money.

In MN I blame "Grumpy Old Men," "Fargo" and the rise of Jessica Lange.
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Old 11-19-2023, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Born + raised SF Bay; Tyler, TX now WNY
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Most of the ones here in NY are either here because of family (like myself) or because they’re coming home/born here but coming back after a stint in California. I’m pretty sure there’s a ton down in the city for careers, but I don’t go there and that’s on purpose.
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Old 11-19-2023, 12:37 PM
 
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That is an expensive haircut.
Lol, no we didn’t just fly back for the hair cut. we also did visiting family and friends, dining, reminiscing familiar territory and exploring the new finds…etc. Sometimes it did feel like we never really moved away.
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Old 11-19-2023, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Massachusetts for fun?

If looking at rich families drinking wine on their compound down the cape, or watching the fellow retire folk head to Tanglewood for a Classic Music festival, than yeah its fun… lol
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Old 11-19-2023, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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Won't be subscribing to that paper to read an anecdotal article about.....a person who moved.

My point is that thinking "I'm not having luck in the most economically productive state, I'll see what I can find in the 48th most productive state" is not a logical train of thought, if we're to believe "jobs" is the primary impetus for CA to MT moves.
Here's a link to an archived version w/o paywall: https://archive.li/w6Kj4

The grad from Berkeley School of Law had a local offer, and another in Montana. It's not just about finding a job, but one that pays enough for a good quality of life. The fact that he took the job in Montana shows, in economic terms, that the job in Montana was better.
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Old 11-19-2023, 03:13 PM
 
Location: OC
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Here's a link to an archived version w/o paywall: https://archive.li/w6Kj4

The grad from Berkeley School of Law had a local offer, and another in Montana. It's not just about finding a job, but one that pays enough for a good quality of life. The fact that he took the job in Montana shows, in economic terms, that the job in Montana was better.
Greater pay in a cheaper locale. Easy peasy. This isn’t complicated
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Old 11-19-2023, 03:18 PM
 
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Old 11-19-2023, 03:59 PM
 
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https://www2.census.gov/programs-sur..._2022_T13.xlsx

Top states for relocated Californians (2022)

Texas- 102k
Arizona- 74k
Florida- 51k
Washington- 50k
Nevada- 49k
Oregon- 36k
New York- 35k
Colorado- 33k
Idaho- 27k
Georgia- 26k

NC, Tennessee, Illinois, Virginia, and Utah are the next 5
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Old 11-19-2023, 06:45 PM
 
Location: La Jolla
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Here's a link to an archived version w/o paywall: https://archive.li/w6Kj4

The grad from Berkeley School of Law had a local offer, and another in Montana. It's not just about finding a job, but one that pays enough for a good quality of life. The fact that he took the job in Montana shows, in economic terms, that the job in Montana was better.

I was able to read that link, thank you.


CA residents longing to move to states like Montana is nothing new, but the article implies there is a mass migration, which Montana would not have the infrastructure to receive to begin with.

As a reference point, Montana's current population of 1.1 million is roughly equivalent to how many people moved into the city of Los Angeles from 1910-1930.

So taking a job in another state to achieve a better standard of living is not the same being attracted to that state because of its job market.

You could throw a dart at a map of California and there's a good chance it would hit a county with a larger economy than some of these states mentioned in the other article.
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