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Old 12-27-2023, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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From this 2023 report about household spending on utilities.

Statewide data is less interesting to me, too many variables in aggregate to be useful as an individual. So I started looking at their list of the 379 largest US cities (starting page 19 of the report) and... it's not at all what I expected!

I always thought cold or hot places would have the highest utility bills, but that's not true in 2023. The numbers are all over the place.

Curiosity got the best of me and so I spent time time massaging their formatting to get the data into a spreadsheet that could be ranked based on household cost. See bellow for the full ranking.

Households spend monthly from $176 (Bowling Green, KY) up to the unfortunate folks in Hyattsville, MD spending $646. Would love to hear from someone in that area about what's going on there. Wondering if there's an error in there data, because that seems outrageous.

Boise (where I live), with cold winters and hot summers, is in the top quintile for lowest cost ($266). Whereas San Francisco, with a mild year-round climate, is the bottom quintile ($417).

So it can't just be about climate. How electric and gas companies charge, things like fixed rates (connection fees) and usage tiers must be a big factor.

But there must be something else going on here as well. San Francisco, Berkeley, and Oakland all have high monthly utility bills, and yet nearby Sunnyvale is in the ten lowest cost at just $205. My hunch is that there's very high variability
in city specific utilities (water, sewer, garbage).

Interested in your thoughts/insights.

Rank, City, Average Monthly Bill
1 Bowling Green,KY $176.00
2 Santa Clara,CA $176.00
3 Fort Collins,CO $178.00
4 Arlington,VA $187.00
5 Roseville,CA $195.00
6 Costa Mesa,CA $200.00
7 Wichita Falls,TX $204.00
8 Lawrenceville,GA $205.00
9 Sunnyvale,CA $205.00
10 Minneapolis,MN $209.00
11 Largo,FL $214.00
12 Saint Augustine,FL $215.00
13 Memphis,TN $216.00
14 Longmont,CO $218.00
15 Grand Rapids,MI $220.00
16 Austin,TX $221.00
17 Huntsville,AL $221.00
18 Melbourne,FL $222.00
19 Amarillo,TX $223.00
20 San Angelo,TX $224.00
21 Burbank,CA $227.00
22 Frederick,MD $229.00
23 Bradenton,FL $230.00
24 Saint Charles,MO $231.00
25 Tacoma,WA $232.00
26 Garland,TX $234.00
27 Winston Salem,NC $235.00
28 Greensboro,NC $239.00
29 Atlanta,GA $240.00
30 Columbus,GA $240.00
31 Lansing,MI $240.00
32 Hamilton,OH $241.00
33 Boulder,CO $243.00
34 Jackson,MS $243.00
35 Mesa,AZ $243.00
36 Clinton Township,MI $245.00
37 Kissimmee,FL $245.00
38 Charleston,SC $246.00
39 Durham,NC $246.00
40 Rock Hill,SC $246.00
41 Asheville,NC $247.00
42 Charlotte,NC $247.00
43 Murfreesboro,TN $247.00
44 Vero Beach,FL $249.00
45 Sarasota,FL $250.00
46 Florissant,MO $252.00
47 Anaheim,CA $253.00
48 Manassas,VA $255.00
49 Ypsilanti,MI $255.00
50 New Port Richey,FL $256.00
51 Round Rock,TX $256.00
52 Port Saint Lucie,FL $257.00
53 Colorado Springs,CO $258.00
54 Fargo,ND $260.00
55 Huntington Beach,CA $260.00
56 Worcester,MA $260.00
57 Rochester,MN $261.00
58 San Diego,CA $261.00
59 Warren,MI $261.00
60 Orlando,FL $262.00
61 Sacramento,CA $262.00
62 Daytona Beach,FL $263.00
63 Lafayette,LA $263.00
64 McKinney,TX $263.00
65 Boynton Beach,FL $264.00
66 Killeen,TX $265.00
67 Boise,ID $266.00
68 Ontario,CA $266.00
69 Laredo,TX $267.00
70 Modesto,CA $267.00
71 Saint Petersburg,FL $268.00
72 Grand Junction,CO $269.00
73 Independence,MO $270.00
74 Dayton,OH $271.00
75 Van Nuys,CA $272.00
76 Fort Worth,TX $273.00
77 Harrisburg,PA $273.00
78 Saint Louis,MO $274.00
79 Salt Lake City,UT $274.00
80 Everett,WA $275.00
81 San Antonio,TX $275.00
82 Scranton,PA $275.00
83 Vancouver,WA $275.00
84 Lake Charles,LA $277.00
85 Olathe,KS $277.00
86 Santa Ana,CA $277.00
87 North Hollywood,CA $278.00
88 Redding,CA $278.00
89 Gilbert,AZ $279.00
90 Madison,WI $280.00
91 Midland,TX $280.00
92 Orange,CA $280.00
93 Puyallup,WA $281.00
94 Cumming,GA $282.00
95 Las Vegas,NV $282.00
96 Sparks,NV $283.00
97 Reno,NV $284.00
98 South Bend,IN $284.00
99 Cambridge,MA $285.00
100 Bloomington,IN $286.00
101 Knoxville,TN $286.00
102 Myrtle Beach,SC $286.00
103 Pasadena,TX $287.00
104 Katy,TX $288.00
105 Stone Mountain,GA $290.00
106 Athens,GA $291.00
107 Macon,GA $291.00
108 North Las Vegas,NV $292.00
109 Sterling Heights,MI $292.00
110 Gainesville,FL $293.00
111 Jacksonville,FL $293.00
112 Sioux Falls,SD $294.00
113 Virginia Beach,VA $294.00
114 Brownsville,TX $295.00
115 Springfield,MO $295.00
116 Kansas City,MO $296.00
117 Norman,OK $296.00
118 Abilene,TX $297.00
119 Augusta,GA $297.00
120 Greenville,SC $297.00
121 Bakersfield,CA $299.00
122 Bethlehem,PA $299.00
123 Lake Worth,FL $299.00
124 Wilmington,NC $301.00
125 Clearwater,FL $302.00
126 Manchester,NH $302.00
127 Buffalo,NY $303.00
128 Columbia,SC $303.00
129 Fort Lauderdale,FL $303.00
130 Dallas,TX $304.00
131 High Point,NC $304.00
132 Kenosha,WI $304.00
133 Bend,OR $305.00
134 Houston,TX $306.00
135 Stamford,CT $306.00
136 Eugene,OR $307.00
137 Henderson,NV $307.00
138 Marietta,GA $307.00
139 Henrico,VA $308.00
140 Torrance,CA $308.00
141 Shreveport,LA $309.00
142 Muskegon,MI $310.00
143 Allentown,PA $311.00
144 Waco,TX $312.00
145 Decatur,GA $313.00
146 Columbia,MO $314.00
147 Ogden,UT $314.00
148 Broken Arrow,OK $316.00
149 Irving,TX $316.00
150 Lancaster,PA $316.00
151 Fullerton,CA $317.00
152 Charleston,WV $318.00
153 Hemet,CA $318.00
154 Las Cruces,NM $318.00
155 Arlington,TX $319.00
156 Chico,CA $319.00
157 Lincoln,NE $319.00
158 Cincinnati,OH $320.00
159 Delray Beach,FL $320.00
160 El Paso,TX $320.00
161 Oceanside,CA $320.00
162 Spring,TX $320.00
163 West Palm Beach,FL $320.00
164 Clarksville,TN $321.00
165 Norfolk,VA $321.00
166 Chula Vista,CA $322.00
167 Pueblo,CO $322.00
168 Tyler,TX $322.00
169 Beaumont,TX $324.00
170 Salinas,CA $324.00
171 Hampton,VA $325.00
172 Roanoke,VA $327.00
173 Homestead,FL $328.00
174 Miami Beach,FL $328.00
175 Riverside,CA $328.00
176 Syracuse,NY $328.00
177 Spring Hill,FL $329.00
178 Springfield,IL $330.00
179 Corpus Christi,TX $331.00
180 McAllen,TX $331.00
181 Saint Paul,MN $331.00
182 Rochester,NY $332.00
183 Woodbridge,VA $332.00
184 Tallahassee,FL $333.00
185 Detroit,MI $334.00
186 Omaha,NE $334.00
187 Palm Bay,FL $334.00
188 Ann Arbor,MI $336.00
189 Quincy,MA $336.00
190 Cedar Rapids,IA $337.00
191 Grand Prairie,TX $337.00
192 Yuma,AZ $337.00
193 Raleigh,NC $338.00
194 Naperville,IL $339.00
195 Spartanburg,SC $340.00
196 Inglewood,CA $341.00
197 Wilmington,DE $341.00
198 Elk Grove,CA $342.00
199 Silver Spring,MD $342.00
200 Salem,OR $344.00
201 Whittier,CA $344.00
202 Ocala,FL $345.00
203 Newport News,VA $347.00
204 Akron,OH $348.00
205 Alpharetta,GA $348.00
206 Flint,MI $348.00
207 Nashville,TN $348.00
208 Corona,CA $349.00
209 Odessa,TX $349.00
210 Long Beach,CA $350.00
211 Metairie,LA $350.00
212 Pensacola,FL $350.00
213 Fresno,CA $351.00
214 Denver,CO $352.00
215 Indianapolis,IN $353.00
216 Boston,MA $354.00
217 Chandler,AZ $355.00
218 Frisco,TX $356.00
219 Joliet,IL $357.00
220 Des Moines,IA $358.00
221 Canton,OH $359.00
222 Savannah,GA $359.00
223 Wichita,KS $359.00
224 Newark,DE $360.00
225 Alexandria,VA $361.00
226 Chesapeake,VA $361.00
227 Cleveland,OH $361.00
228 Duluth,MN $361.00
229 Fayetteville,NC $361.00
230 San Mateo,CA $361.00
231 York,PA $361.00
232 Lubbock,TX $362.00
233 Rancho Cucamonga,CA $363.00
234 Ventura,CA $363.00
235 Chattanooga,TN $365.00
236 Denton,TX $365.00
237 Kalamazoo,MI $365.00
238 Littleton,CO $365.00
239 Naples,FL $365.00
240 Bothell,WA $366.00
241 Davenport,IA $367.00
242 Peoria,IL $367.00
243 Aurora,IL $368.00
244 Springfield,OH $368.00
245 Fort Myers,FL $369.00
246 Humble,TX $369.00
247 Aurora,CO $370.00
248 Tucson,AZ $370.00
249 Youngstown,OH $370.00
250 Santa Rosa,CA $371.00
251 Cape Coral,FL $372.00
252 Glendale,AZ $372.00
253 Miami,FL $372.00
254 Philadelphia,PA $372.00
255 Spokane,WA $372.00
256 Oklahoma City,OK $373.00
257 Santa Monica,CA $373.00
258 Fontana,CA $374.00
259 Irvine,CA $374.00
260 Mission,TX $374.00
261 Rockford,IL $374.00
262 Mesquite,TX $375.00
263 El Cajon,CA $376.00
264 Olympia,WA $378.00
265 Englewood,CO $379.00
266 Falls Church,VA $379.00
267 Garden Grove,CA $379.00
268 Albuquerque,NM $380.00
269 Fairfax,VA $382.00
270 Mobile,AL $382.00
271 Bellingham,WA $383.00
272 Greenville,NC $383.00
273 Cary,NC $385.00
274 Jersey City,NJ $385.00
275 Tempe,AZ $385.00
276 Stockton,CA $386.00
277 Tulsa,OK $387.00
278 Baltimore,MD $388.00
279 Escondido,CA $388.00
280 Pompano Beach,FL $388.00
281 Fredericksburg,VA $389.00
282 Conroe,TX $390.00
283 Tuscaloosa,AL $390.00
284 Montgomery,AL $391.00
285 Lakeland,FL $395.00
286 Lexington,KY $395.00
287 Tampa,FL $397.00
288 Toledo,OH $398.00
289 Fremont,CA $399.00
290 Santa Fe,NM $400.00
291 Lewisville,TX $402.00
292 San Bernardino,CA $402.00
293 Columbus,OH $403.00
294 Santa Barbara,CA $404.00
295 Saginaw,MI $406.00
296 Panama City,FL $408.00
297 Hollywood,FL $410.00
298 Carlsbad,CA $411.00
299 Kent,WA $411.00
300 Chicago,IL $412.00
301 Gaithersburg,MD $413.00
302 Rockville,MD $414.00
303 Anchorage,AK $415.00
304 Hayward,CA $416.00
305 Summerville,SC $416.00
306 Concord,CA $417.00
307 Portland,OR $417.00
308 San Francisco,CA $417.00
309 Seattle,WA $418.00
310 Boca Raton,FL $422.00
311 Peoria,AZ $422.00
312 Plano,TX $422.00
313 Trenton,NJ $423.00
314 Appleton,WI $424.00
315 Fort Wayne,IN $425.00
316 Glendale,CA $425.00
317 Hialeah,FL $426.00
318 Arvada,CO $430.00
319 Palmdale,CA $430.00
320 Racine,WI $433.00
321 Springfield,MA $433.00
322 Oxnard,CA $434.00
323 Little Rock,AR $435.00
324 Louisville,KY $437.00
325 Phoenix,AZ $438.00
326 Birmingham,AL $439.00
327 Pittsburgh,PA $439.00
328 San Jose,CA $439.00
329 Yakima,WA $441.00
330 Bridgeport,CT $444.00
331 Albany,NY $445.00
332 Richmond,VA $448.00
333 Moreno Valley,CA $450.00
334 Staten Island,NY $454.00
335 Los Angeles,CA $455.00
336 Evansville,IN $459.00
337 Surprise,AZ $459.00
338 Simi Valley,CA $464.00
339 Visalia,CA $464.00
340 Waterbury,CT $464.00
341 Paterson,NJ $466.00
342 Renton,WA $466.00
343 New Orleans,LA $467.00
344 Providence,RI $468.00
345 Lancaster,CA $469.00
346 Topeka,KS $470.00
347 Newark,NJ $471.00
348 Beaverton,OR $474.00
349 Erie,PA $477.00
350 Baton Rouge,LA $479.00
351 Brooklyn,NY $479.00
352 Overland Park,KS $479.00
353 Kansas City,KS $481.00
354 Green Bay,WI $489.00
355 Edmond,OK $497.00
356 Reading,PA $507.00
357 Charlottesville,VA $510.00
358 New York,NY $511.00
359 Bronx,NY $512.00
360 Jamaica,NY $513.00
361 Astoria,NY $514.00
362 Pasadena,CA $522.00
363 Hartford,CT $524.00
364 Vallejo,CA $527.00
365 Toms River,NJ $529.00
366 Yonkers,NY $529.00
367 Sugar Land,TX $530.00
368 Schenectady,NY $532.00
369 Milwaukee,WI $538.00
370 Scottsdale,AZ $550.00
371 Berkeley,CA $551.00
372 Flushing,NY $573.00
373 Billings,MT $587.00
374 Carrollton,TX $590.00
375 New Haven,CT $591.00
376 Bellevue,WA $604.00
377 Oakland,CA $638.00
378 Honolulu,HI $644.00
379 Hyattsville,MD $646.00
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Old 12-27-2023, 11:46 AM
 
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I think a lot of the variables absolutely has to do with what services are municipally owned by the city and what is contracted through a private company.

The city I live in isn't big enough (25K) to be on this list, but if it was, I'm guessing would be at the top. Our electric, water, sewer and trash collection is all municipally owned. On top of that, the city has its own cable/internet company. I don't have cable but do have the highest tier residential internet service ($40ish a month) and the monthly bill is usually anywhere between $190 and $220. That includes internet ... when I had the cable package 10 years ago, it was another $75 or so for the standard package.

The only outside utility that isn't included on the city bill is gas, which is usually around $80 a month doing the 12-month average payment ... though had some under $20 and some up to $250 before going the payment plan where it's based on average usage throughout the year.

I wonder if there is a correlation between cities that provide more municipally owned services being able to offer residents lower bills? I did a quick search at Bowling Green and it looks like they offer all the same utilities as were I live outside of trash (and maybe cable/internet, though it looks like they do have their own fiberoptics).
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Old 12-27-2023, 11:55 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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I've spent about 32 years in the utility business, and there is no way to compare as is done here based on just climate. There are just far too many variables. Look at the high end where it shows Bellevue, WA $604.00 (a few miles from my home) and Oakland, CA (where I lived a few years) $638.00. Oakland has a very mild climate, rarely below 40F in winter, barely any need for AC in summer. Bellevue likewise has minimal need for AC but in winter has 4 months in the 30s, averaging 5" of snow. How then do they tend to come out with the same high averages per this report? Oakland PG&E gas/electric rates are far higher than Bellevue PSE gas/Electric rates. EBMUD water and sewer rates in Oakland are also a lot higher than the City of Bellevue water and sewer rates. In Bellevue they can use a lot more at less cost. What keeps them close to the same though is that Bellevue uses a lot more. Not only due to the colder winters but because Bellevue is generally more upscale, with larger yards, more bathrooms per house, and people that are more able to keep their house "comfortable". Bellevue median household income is $140,252 per year, Oakland $85,628.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Flovis
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Cheaper costs = hydro, coal, and nuclear?


Good thing all new homes in CA get solar.
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Old 12-27-2023, 12:53 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Cheaper costs = hydro, coal, and nuclear?


Good thing all new homes in CA get solar.
Mainly hydro electricity, our average rate is about 11 cents/kWh, Oakland is 37 cents.

Our average for natural gas is $1.14/therm, Oakland $2.21, I can't explain the difference.
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Old 12-27-2023, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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I think a lot of the variables absolutely has to do with what services are municipally owned by the city and what is contracted through a private company.

The city I live in isn't big enough (25K) to be on this list, but if it was, I'm guessing would be at the top. Our electric, water, sewer and trash collection is all municipally owned. On top of that, the city has its own cable/internet company. I don't have cable but do have the highest tier residential internet service ($40ish a month) and the monthly bill is usually anywhere between $190 and $220. That includes internet ... when I had the cable package 10 years ago, it was another $75 or so for the standard package.

The only outside utility that isn't included on the city bill is gas, which is usually around $80 a month doing the 12-month average payment ... though had some under $20 and some up to $250 before going the payment plan where it's based on average usage throughout the year.

I wonder if there is a correlation between cities that provide more municipally owned services being able to offer residents lower bills? I did a quick search at Bowling Green and it looks like they offer all the same utilities as were I live outside of trash (and maybe cable/internet, though it looks like they do have their own fiberoptics).
That's interesting. I wonder in what direction the correlation goes. To your point, I can see municipalities providing cheaper utilities as this would be popular with voters, but only if things are well managed. On the other hand, this could instead tempt politicians to offer generous pay and retirement packages to win the support of unions, which would make for much higher utilities.

Anecdotally, the many city owned utilities at our previous city in California were very expensive, whereas utility services from private companies here in Boise are more reasonable.
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Old 12-27-2023, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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Mainly hydro electricity, our average rate is about 11 cents/kWh, Oakland is 37 cents.

Our average for natural gas is $1.14/therm, Oakland $2.21, I can't explain the difference.
Yes, we pay about 8-9 cents/kWh, whereas we were paying around 40 cents in CA. Mainly from hydro, but also a growing amount of wind and solar.
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Old 12-27-2023, 04:13 PM
 
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That's interesting. I wonder in what direction the correlation goes. To your point, I can see municipalities providing cheaper utilities as this would be popular with voters, but only if things are well managed. On the other hand, this could instead tempt politicians to offer generous pay and retirement packages to win the support of unions, which would make for much higher utilities.

Anecdotally, the many city owned utilities at our previous city in California were very expensive, whereas utility services from private companies here in Boise are more reasonable.
Yeah, a lot of that probably boils down to how well it's managed along with how long the infrastructure has been in place and how overburdened the city is.

I'm guessing the reason my city is low is because it is well ran; everything has been in place for over 30 years (think muny cable, if that counts as a utility, was the last and was in place by the 90s ... long before we moved there); and the city never experienced a massive annexation/population boom, instead it annexes here or there (mainly commercial) and has been content with modest growth (anywhere from 1-3k people per census since the late 1800s).
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Old 12-27-2023, 05:11 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Not every day I see both Bowling Green, KY and Santa Clara, CA at the extreme of some statistic.
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Old 12-27-2023, 05:20 PM
 
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Wichita Kansas is listed twice. The first time I think it’s in the top 10 of the cheapest and then much lower in the list at a high cost.
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