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Old 07-29-2008, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Large black Haitian population.



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Unsure, but there is a large Caribbean population, as well as a significant black population, and much of the population is transient.



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The correction should be: "Report warns of Southern Blacks AIDS crisis".

Political correctness in the media tends to not tell the true story.

Why do you not see Johnson City, Tennessee, Knoxville, Tennessee, Nashville, Tennessee, etc.? I mean, they're in the South. Most likely because they have much lower black populations, percentage-wise.

To those who doubt the validity of what I'm saying, here are some links that indicate the differences in the AIDS rate among whites and blacks in the U.S.

"The rates of new infections in heterosexual men were lower, but still showed a very large disparity with other races: 35.5 per 100,000 blacks, compared to 1.1 for whites, 10.9 for Hispanics and 2.3 for Asians/Pacific Islanders".

Source: African American HIV & AIDS statistics
Was it really necessary to go out and blame the high rates on blacks???? People already know AIDs is high amongst the African American population, no need to go and point it out.

Do you seriously just love blaming every problem going on in the south on blacks???
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Was it really necessary to go out and blame the high rates on blacks???? People already know AIDs is high amongst the African American population, no need to go and point it out.

Do you seriously just love blaming every problem going on in the south on blacks???
I don't think ScraperEnthusiast was blaming black people. I think he/she was trying to make a point that it's a huge problem that is affecting the black community dispropotionately, and that education and other efforts to stem the spread of the virus may not be as widely available in the black community as they need to be. I can't speak for the poster, but that's the take I had on it.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago- Hyde Park
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I don't think ScraperEnthusiast was blaming black people. I think he/she was trying to make a point that it's a huge problem that is affecting the black community dispropotionately, and that education and other efforts to stem the spread of the virus may not be as widely available in the black community as they need to be. I can't speak for the poster, but that's the take I had on it.
Sorry but I didn't get any of that from what ScraperEnthusiast said. Seems as though he was pointing fingers. A lot of big cities have a large Black American population; Chicago, New York, St. Louis, etc, etc.....with higher than normal sexual transmitted diseases per capita (same for Caucasians). This doesn't however explain why Blacks are more likely to fall victim of the desease than other races. Perhaps there is an economic link between AIDS and the poor; i.e. India has the most aids cases in the world(5.7million), 27.5% (approx 275 million) of it's people live below the poverty line. South Africa has 5.5million cases with a population that is 57% (approx 25million) under the poverty line. My point is the higher percentage of people under the poverty line equates to a larger amount of people living with aids per capita; Blacks in the United States have a higher percentage of people under the poverty line. I'm sure there are other variables to be accounted for, but poverty is a huge issue.
It's interesting that on this site almost any thread someone brings race/ color into the equation when most of the time it isn't necessary. AIDS ISN'T A RESPECTER OF COLOR, IT DOESN'T CARE IF YOUR BLACK WHITE OR CANDY STRIPED, IT WILL KILL YOU.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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I don't think ScraperEnthusiast was blaming black people. I think he/she was trying to make a point that it's a huge problem that is affecting the black community dispropotionately, and that education and other efforts to stem the spread of the virus may not be as widely available in the black community as they need to be. I can't speak for the poster, but that's the take I had on it.
Try reading some of his other posts and comment back.
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:43 AM
 
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Some of you can't accept the truth. The facts are that blacks have a much higher rate of the AIDS disease, and so in cities that have high percentages of blacks, the rate of AIDS is going to be higher. I'm not out to make people look bad, but am rather stating the primary reason why these cities have higher rates of AIDS.
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago- Hyde Park
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Some of you can't accept the truth. The facts are that blacks have a much higher rate of the AIDS disease, and so in cities that have high percentages of blacks, the rate of AIDS is going to be higher. I'm not out to make people look bad, but am rather stating the primary reason why these cities have higher rates of AIDS.
Because more Blacks have AIDS isn't a reason those cities have a higher rate of aids. Where is the ration there? I think it's more a cause and effect thing or trickle down system if you will; i.e. (just a hypothesis) People who live below the poverty line are more likely to contract AIDS, Black Americans per capita have the most amount of people living under the poverty line in an urban setting, therefore Black Americans have higher rates of AIDS cases in the United States.

I think this is an American/ Global issue rather than a race one.
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Old 09-29-2008, 03:33 PM
 
Location: moving again
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very sad
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Old 09-29-2008, 04:27 PM
 
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I did some consulting for the Southern AIDS Coalition several years ago. Even then, they stressed that the AIDS infection rate among blacks was nearing the 1% mark. Now, mind you, they don't have a racial axe to grind. But, according to them, it was almost impossible to promote safe sex in the black communities for a number of important reasons:

1) A social abhorrence against gays, resulting in a lot of gay and bi activity to go underground.
2) A general dislike of condoms.
3) Far fewer long-term relationships and far more casual sex. In this situation, there's similar correlation between other STDs and pregnancies outside of wedlock.
4) A general refusal of black churches, the center of black communities, to confront the problem. In fact, one of the prevalent issues they were facing was that of black church leaders believing that AIDS was manufactured by the CIA as some great holocaust--believe it or not.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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It has the fewest numbers of blacks and "Hispanics", the two groups that have the highest AIDS rate.
actually your link : African American HIV & AIDS statistics
Say that Hispanics and the 3rd highest.
But aside. That was very politically incorrect. Not saying anything you didn't already know.

African Americans do have a higher AIDS rate, but its partly due to popular culture.
I don't really know what to say, under fear of making myself real racist or under fear of lying to myself...
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:05 AM
 
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I did some consulting for the Southern AIDS Coalition several years ago. Even then, they stressed that the AIDS infection rate among blacks was nearing the 1% mark. Now, mind you, they don't have a racial axe to grind. But, according to them, it was almost impossible to promote safe sex in the black communities for a number of important reasons:

1) A social abhorrence against gays, resulting in a lot of gay and bi activity to go underground.
2) A general dislike of condoms.
3) Far fewer long-term relationships and far more casual sex. In this situation, there's similar correlation between other STDs and pregnancies outside of wedlock.
4) A general refusal of black churches, the center of black communities, to confront the problem. In fact, one of the prevalent issues they were facing was that of black church leaders believing that AIDS was manufactured by the CIA as some great holocaust--believe it or not.
cpg thanks for pointing out the obvious. This really isn't about race but more of a cultural issue. Your first point is to what is reffered as the "down low" where black men have sex with other men are not openly gay due to social pressures from others in the black community not to appear to be gay or sissy like.
The other is the black churches which won't even discuss this issue openly.There was a news report recently where a reverend started talking about homosexuality & HIV/Aids and lost more than halk of his congregation because of it.
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