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Old 07-07-2007, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Texas!
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When Houston was building all of its towers, they were world-renowned. I suggest you check this out: Architecture of Houston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . Houston's culture can match Chicago's. Houston is just as diverse (if not more; it has way more foreign consulars than Chicago). Houston is very much a world class city. Why does Houston need to be more like Austin in that regard? Houston is a liberal city. Its suburbs are not, just like almost every other suburban area in the U.S.
When they say Houston needs to be more like Austin,I think they mean Houston needs more places downtown to attract more people to the downtown area to make it more dense.
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well, Houston has over 10,000 people live in and just across the freeway from Downtown. Austin also has a large university right next to its Downtown. There is no way Austin's downtown is more dense and urban than Houston's though.



And that is not even where the skyscrapers are. This is the less dense part of Downtown Houston (though it is changing with new office towers, residential towers, and the large Downtown Park being built).
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Old 07-07-2007, 04:08 PM
 
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Nah, it isn't like Uptown Houston isn't building more towers. The TMC is also VERY dense. Houston isn't done building. That is what a lot of people forget. I'll take Houston's skyline(s) hands down over any other metro area in Texas. Houston clearly has more, AND it is the tallest. Out of the top five tallest buildings in Texas, Houston has three of them, #1, #2, and #4.

The TMC:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/FlightHoustontoDallas086.jpg (broken link)

DOes that mean Dallas has numbers 3 and 5?
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yeah. Out of the top ten, Houston has six of them (for Texas).
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Nah, it isn't like Uptown Houston isn't building more towers. The TMC is also VERY dense. Houston isn't done building. That is what a lot of people forget. I'll take Houston's skyline(s) hands down over any other metro area in Texas. Houston clearly has more, AND it is the tallest. Out of the top five tallest buildings in Texas, Houston has three of them, #1, #2, and #4.
My favorite tower in all of the south is the Williams Tower. But I am not enamored with the rest of the buildings surrounding it. The area is very car-centric and dangerous for pedestrians. I like downtown Austin alot better. It is becoming dense and it is becoming tall and they are also catering to pedestrians. In the next few years, they will have the tallest all residential building in Downtown Austin. Not to mention, there are other projects on the table.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:12 PM
 
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Yeah. Out of the top ten, Houston has six of them (for Texas).
So that means dallas has the remaining 4.
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Old 07-07-2007, 09:46 PM
 
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When Houston was building all of its towers, they were world-renowned. I suggest you check this out: Architecture of Houston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . Houston's culture can match Chicago's. Houston is just as diverse (if not more; it has way more foreign consulars than Chicago). Houston is very much a world class city. Why does Houston need to be more like Austin in that regard? Houston is a liberal city. Its suburbs are not, just like almost every other suburban area in the U.S.

Hello my friend. I believe both cities are terrific and the only real difference is the political climate, public transit and architecture. Cost of livng is definetely lower in Houston and Chicago has the 4 seasons that people like. I still think that Chicago is more liberal than the "city" of Houston. Everyone I know seems to feel this way. Maybe it's not so much the locals but about the attitudes of the city council and state government. I'm not entirely sure but there's a difference.

You know what's interesting, as you know I've been doing much research on Portland and Houston as I'm planning to relocate to one of these cities. As it turns out Portland has that "supposed" ultimate socialist atmosphere BUT the rest of Oregon is dominated by conservative politics. Now tell me that Portland isn't going to be effected by this. I think it's impossible to think that. Chicago's undergoing the same thing thanks to Mayor Daley and I'm sure Mayor White is on the same band-waggon.

I was reading an article last week that Houston is having a major crisis with local hospitals. The newspaper stated that Houston is one of the largest cities (along with the rest of Texas) for lacking healthcare coverage. Meaning that there's more uninsured people in Texas than anywhere else in the U.S. and the hospitals are refusing to see you unless you have medical insurance.

Anyone care to shed some light on this?

Hello Metroplex!
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Old 07-08-2007, 12:30 AM
 
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DFW is expanding
It's funny how people think only DFW is expanding, Houston uptown has so many cranes up, its really funny to how people think Houston will sit around and let DFW catch. Dallas has about 25 years to catch up to Houston, and thats if Houston halts all new projects. Architechture is what makes a city, regardless its European style or skycrapers, cities are known for their architechture. And quite frankly, DFW is waaay behind H-town in that category. And one more thing, if cities try to model themselves after other cities, its just not appealing. Houston needs to be like Houston, not Chicago, not Austin, just Houston. We have our own culture, our own way of life, Houston isnt like any city in the country, Houston is Houston.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So that means dallas has the remaining 4.
No, SA has one at #10.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:03 AM
 
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It's funny how people think only DFW is expanding, Houston uptown has so many cranes up, its really funny to how people think Houston will sit around and let DFW catch. Dallas has about 25 years to catch up to Houston, and thats if Houston halts all new projects. Architechture is what makes a city, regardless its European style or skycrapers, cities are known for their architechture. And quite frankly, DFW is waaay behind H-town in that category. And one more thing, if cities try to model themselves after other cities, its just not appealing. Houston needs to be like Houston, not Chicago, not Austin, just Houston. We have our own culture, our own way of life, Houston isnt like any city in the country, Houston is Houston.
Never said Houston wasnt expanding.
We talked a/b that when talking about the 2030 projections.
Yes, Houston is Houston. IT shouldnt change. But Dallas is Dallas. I think it shouldnt change either. It's successful in its own right. As for catching up, or not catching up, I think the comments made by the pro DFW crowd including myself has been that DFW is expanding rapidly, but at least from my end, never did say that Houston was not expanding. That's just foolish considering the top growth areas are Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Austin, SA, etc.
Frankly, skyline is not everything. LA is a great city, but doesnt have the tallest skyline...so i think it's the overall package.
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