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Old 05-09-2010, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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It is amusing to see in most polls of anything that Missouri falls within 2 or 3 spaces from the middle.
Missouri has a very mediocre to poor economy with few jobs created since 2000 relative to population growth.
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Old 05-09-2010, 08:54 PM
 
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Missouri has a very mediocre to poor economy with few jobs created since 2000 relative to population growth.
Overall isn't that about national average where total number employed is the same from 2000 to 2010? Also there are a number of reports in St. Louis that show the number of people in the workforce is going to start shrinking even though total population isn't due to a large number of people retiring and not moving away for it and not enough entering the workforce to offset retiring.
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:01 PM
 
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Overall isn't that about national average where total number employed is the same from 2000 to 2010? Also there are a number of reports in St. Louis that show the number of people in the workforce is going to start shrinking even though total population isn't due to a large number of people retiring and not moving away for it and not enough entering the workforce to offset retiring.
I guess it would depend more on the job sector than anything else. Also, KC, MO has lost a lot of businesses and jobs to Johnson County, KS as they give out a lot of corporate welfare, enticements, subsidies, etc to suck jobs over to the other side of the state line. St. Charles County has actually created the most jobs in percentage terms since 2000 with Springfield, MO showing modest growth. The KC, MO suburbs have done about average for job growth relative to population growth. The rural areas and micropolitan cities are lagging behind fairly severely with little wage growth at all, and tend to be even more closed off to outsiders compared to some Upper Midwest states.
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:18 PM
 
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I guess it would depend more on the job sector than anything else. Also, KC, MO has lost a lot of businesses and jobs to Johnson County, KS as they give out a lot of corporate welfare, enticements, subsidies, etc to suck jobs over to the other side of the state line. St. Charles County has actually created the most jobs in percentage terms since 2000 with Springfield, MO showing modest growth. The KC, MO suburbs have done about average for job growth relative to population growth. The rural areas and micropolitan cities are lagging behind fairly severely with little wage growth at all, and tend to be even more closed off to outsiders compared to some Upper Midwest states.
Also have to combine the rural population decline (though that is largely north of the Missouri River where farming is). Having the two largest metros along state lines also might distort some numbers. (though only KC would have that problem since St. Louis tend not to have jobs move to Illinois) I would gauge instead of job growth to population growth is job growth to population growth of working age people since job growth would lag or decline if the population is rapidly aging and the newly retired are not moving out of state.
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Old 05-09-2010, 10:13 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Actually it means MUCH more than the asenine and totally misleading statement about Texas accounting for 70% of national job growth.

News Flash: That's not true.

Texas shed 387,100 jobs in 2009 and that sucks by any standard. Sorry but it is fiction to keep pretending that Texas is way better off economically then the rest of the country. It really is not.

Texas simply is doing less bad. But its still bad, just like everywhere else.

Its like your bragging about a D+.


You can have all of it.


Sounds like America from 2000-2008.


Caracas is preferable to Crawford.
Looks like somebody was mind****ed by George W. Bush. *lol*
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:33 AM
 
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I'm surprised that IL, with its huge debt, former governor on trial and inept legislature didn't fall into the bottom 5. Then again, I don't put much faith in business climate ratings.
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Old 05-12-2010, 10:32 AM
 
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I'm surprised that IL, with its huge debt, former governor on trial and inept legislature didn't fall into the bottom 5. Then again, I don't put much faith in business climate ratings.
I think the article did mention what factors and weights are considered in rankings. The above listed might not factor into things either, or that other states are that much worse.
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