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View Poll Results: Abrams or Kemp?
Abrams 88 61.97%
Kemp 54 38.03%
Voters: 142. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-17-2018, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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I have no problem with anyone advocating for changes through the legislative process. Her stance of filing a federal lawsuit seems petty and will NOT aid her future efforts if she wants a role representing Georgia.
Something tells me that Ms. Abrams views her quest for reformed voting laws more important than her political future. Imagine - someone putting principle over fame and fortune. I suggest that litigating this matter is a better (and likely more effective) social outcome than organizing mass protests that hinder commerce and could lead to violence. That is, in large part, why we have a judicial system.
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Old 11-17-2018, 07:17 AM
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I have no problem with anyone advocating for changes through the legislative process. Her stance of filing a federal lawsuit seems petty and will NOT aid her future efforts if she wants a role representing Georgia.
President Trump appears to disagree with you.

https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/tr...860DB0dBWFKiK/
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Old 11-17-2018, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Something tells me that Ms. Abrams views her quest for reformed voting laws more important than her political future. Imagine - someone putting principle over fame and fortune. I suggest that litigating this matter is a better (and likely more effective) social outcome than organizing mass protests that hinder commerce and could lead to violence. That is, in large part, why we have a judicial system.
Reformed to do what? Let anybody vote? Enable her to bus people in from out of state? That's the problem with counting a lot of these ballots with bad information, we don't know who those people actually are, they might not even live in Georgia and are just putting whatever on the ballot, then screaming about it to ram it through.
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Old 11-17-2018, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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Reformed to do what? Let anybody vote? Enable her to bus people in from out of state? That's the problem with counting a lot of these ballots with bad information, we don't know who those people actually are, they might not even live in Georgia and are just putting whatever on the ballot, then screaming about it to ram it through.
Matt, no one is in favor of letting people vote twice, letting non-citizens vote or letting the dead vote. What we should favor is not disenfranchising folks who have made simple errors on their registration form, whose ballots may have been misplaced by election workers or having the fox watch over the hen house. No one is asking to allow illegal immigrants to vote and the like. I don’t know why this is such a contentious concept.
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Old 11-17-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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President Trump appears to disagree with you.

https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/tr...860DB0dBWFKiK/
President Trump’s tweets change message more often than the weather.

She may energize the progressive base, but that only works in a blue state. Georgia may get there, but it’s not even purple yet. Her attitude - whether true or not - comes across as a sore loser. Hollywood will love her but the average voter here will remember.
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Old 11-17-2018, 08:30 AM
 
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Matt, no one is in favor of letting people vote twice, letting non-citizens vote or letting the dead vote. What we should favor is not disenfranchising folks who have made simple errors on their registration form, whose ballots may have been misplaced by election workers or having the fox watch over the hen house. No one is asking to allow illegal immigrants to vote and the like. I don’t know why this is such a contentious concept.
The “fox watching the hen house” argument is specious at best. The SoS plays NO active role in certifying election results, that is done at the local and county level. Or are you implying that Kemp was driving around and stealing extension cords?

I actually think he should have spent more time ensuring everything was working properly but then that activity would have been seen negatively as well.
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Old 11-17-2018, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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The “fox watching the hen house” argument is specious at best. The SoS plays NO active role in certifying election results, that is done at the local and county level. Or are you implying that Kemp was driving around and stealing extension cords?

I actually think he should have spent more time ensuring everything was working properly but then that activity would have been seen negatively as well.
I think you know well what I meant and didn’t mean. At the end of the day, the buck stops at his desk.
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Old 11-17-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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I think you know well what I meant and didn’t mean. At the end of the day, the buck stops at his desk.
I don’t disagree. But it’s not a Republican issue, it’s a government laziness issue. Look at the mess in Broward in Florida.

Many of course felt that he should have stepped down so the buck wouldn’t stop at his desk.
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Old 11-17-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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Canada is a popular place, or you could move to NY or CA.
Well, I'm here for now. I am quite disgusted that we have Brian Kemp for governor. Disgusted. However, unless I get offered a job in another state, I'm here.
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Old 11-17-2018, 09:40 AM
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Well, I'm here for now. I am quite disgusted that we have Brian Kemp for governor. Disgusted. However, unless I get offered a job in another state, I'm here.
Don't you love the "if you don't like it, get the hell out" Republican Mantra that is always the fallback for a crumbling argument?
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