06-16-2009, 01:47 PM
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My husband and I are now considering buying/building a farm in the Ada/Cascade area. We want at least 20 acres: enough for horses, small orchards, fields, swimming pool, etc. and need a large house for our very large family. How much would this cost? (Is it even worth it?) Is Ada very expensive? Are there better towns to look at? We don't want to be more than twenty minutes from downtown Grand Rapids. Thanks!
06-16-2009, 02:48 PM
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I don't think raw undeveloped land is going to be that much more expensive in Ada than anywhere else in the GR area. Not now with very few, if any, new housing developments going in. Construction costs are the same everywhere around here. And taxes in Ada are cheap. It might be hard finding land for sale though.
Here's a house listing with 11 acres, pool and a horse barn, but I'm guessing you'd have to add onto the house, since you mentioned "large family":
http://public.grar.com/public/ePubRe...art?MLS=755857
That area near 2 Mile and Cramton is spectacular (large rolling hills and a lot of horse country).
Here's the house from the air:
http://www.bing.com/maps/default.asp...20mi&encType=1
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06-17-2009, 05:08 AM
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And taxes in Ada are cheap.
This made me laugh... I'm sure it's probably true, relatively speaking.
But I still vividly remember in 3rd grade, when my parents told me that we were moving from Ada to Clarksville because "the taxes in Ada are too high." LOL. There were other reasons too, but that's the big one that my 3rd-rade mind retained. I guess it's all relative...
06-17-2009, 06:24 AM
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This made me laugh... I'm sure it's probably true, relatively speaking.
Maybe "cheap" is the wrong word. I think the millage for Ada Township is 29 (1.5% of market value), which to me isn't bad. There are a lot more expensive areas in Grand Rapids.
06-17-2009, 07:37 AM
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Maybe "cheap" is the wrong word. I think the millage for Ada Township is 29 (1.5% of market value), which to me isn't bad. There are a lot more expensive areas in Grand Rapids.
It's possible the move was more driven by property values.
1.5% of market value in Ada is worse than 1.5% of property value in Clarksville almost certainly.
That means your taxes on a 2,000 sq. ft. house in Ada are much higher than the same sized house in another town.
If you care more about the taxes you pay than the location of your home, this might be a major factor.
06-17-2009, 08:32 AM
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It's possible the move was more driven by property values.
Yeah, that might be pretty accurate. I think we went from a 3-4 acre lot that was worth $200,000 to a 15-acre farm that we bought for about $95,000, or something like that. That was in the mid 90's. So I guess we got more for less, and lower taxes too. If you don't mind that the neighbors have broken down cars in the front yard (which isn't mowed).
But, anyway, I was young and I've never really asked them to completely explain the move, so who knows.
06-17-2009, 09:33 AM
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If Ada prices don't work for you, I'd look into Walker/Comstock Park/Alpine township. The commute to downtown from the Walker Ave. or Fruit Ridge exits of I-96 is not bad, and the area north of 4 mile is still largely apple country. You might even get lucky and buy land with established trees It's also never been trendy like the Forest Hills area, so land costs are probably going to be lower.
06-17-2009, 09:35 AM
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It's possible the move was more driven by property values.
Yeah, but going back to the OP's question, Ada is not really that much more expensive than other suburban areas of the metro. Just because there are a lot of expensive homes doesn't mean it's more expensive to build there. Land that has potential for development is going to sell for $25,000 - $50,000 an acre, same as Byron Center, Rockford, or Hudsonville. Rural land (basically undevelopable) is going to go for a lot less than that. However, if you want to buy a lot in a developed subdivision in Ada, yes you will pay more for that lot ($100,000+ for 1/2 acre) than in other areas. But that's not what the OP is looking for.
Hope that makes sense.
06-17-2009, 06:56 PM
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Would it be do-able, in Ada, to get say, 20 acres on one of the rivers? Is that possible anymore? If so, does anyone have any idea of the prices riverfront? Is the river rec-friendly? My husband and I chose Western Michigan for the low price of real estate and the family atmosphere, so any advice is helpful. What kind of house/property can you get for a couple million? Is East Grand Rapids a better market for that? We wants lots of things to do with our kids, whether that means a farm with horses and other animals, or walkability to museums and shops, but definitely outdoor activities! Thanks.
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Would it be do-able, in Ada, to get say, 20 acres on one of the rivers? Is that possible anymore? If so, does anyone have any idea of the prices riverfront? Is the river rec-friendly? My husband and I chose Western Michigan for the low price of real estate and the family atmosphere, so any advice is helpful. What kind of house/property can you get for a couple million? Is East Grand Rapids a better market for that? We wants lots of things to do with our kids, whether that means a farm with horses and other animals, or walkability to museums and shops, but definitely outdoor activities! Thanks.
In that price range, if you don't mind working with a realtor, contact Ken Grashuis:
http://public.grar.com/public/member...LSTID=GRAS3216
He's THE best realtor in higher end properties on the East side of Grand Rapids. I don't get anything for referring you to him (I wish
), but I know a lot of people who have worked with him.
The Thornapple River in Cascade is definitely rec friendly. Here's a listing right on the Thornapple:
http://public.grar.com/public/ePubRe...art?MLS=750385
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The Grand River is OK, but the land around it floods constantly in the Spring, making it difficult to own land near it.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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