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Old 02-03-2013, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities
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Glenfield, Arricle 4, Section 3 doesn't actually prohibit new states from forming, it's just provides that Congress and the state legislatures approve. I think that clause is less about preventing it from happening, and more about facilitating it through peaceful means.
I agree, but I also think no state legislature would approve such a move, and even if they did, it would have to result in the same number of states or fewer or other states would block it under Article 5.
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Realistically, Puerto Rico might become a state. I found this statement on Wikipedia: The island's current political status, including the possibility of statehood or independence, is widely debated in Puerto Rico. In November 2012, a non-binding referendum resulted in fifty-four percent of respondents voting to reject the current status under the territorial clause of the U.S. Constitution.[18] Among respondents to a second question about alternatives, sixty-one percent voted for statehood as the preferred alternative to the current territorial status.[19] In December 2012, . . .

I think it could happen in the next 10 years. Subdividing states to make other states isn't going to happen our lifetimes. There is no reason to imagine that any population would desire doing this.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:47 PM
 
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I think it could happen in the next 10 years. Subdividing states to make other states isn't going to happen our lifetimes. There is no reason to imagine that any population would desire doing this.
silibran, the way that I see it, some regions of states feel marginalized, such as in the example I offered. It might require a huge amount of popular support and political momentum, but I think that it's definitely in the right circumstances.
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:34 PM
 
Location: the living desert
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Well there is the proposed state of Jefferson, combining rural counties in northern California and southern Oregon. The proponents of this did attempt to secede in 1941. However after Pearl Harbor the idea was shelved although it is still brought up from time to time.

Weird California - State of Jefferson
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:38 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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I think we've got more important things to worry about. Being a state isn't as glamorous as it once was.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Well obviously new states are going to have to be carved out of existing states in the future. There's no more out west. If Alaska should ever get a lot more people, that state would likely be split up. Also I think the UP of Michigan should be its own state.
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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silibran, the way that I see it, some regions of states feel marginalized, such as in the example I offered. It might require a huge amount of popular support and political momentum, but I think that it's definitely in the right circumstances.
Its not going to happen. It is possible that people in a state like Texas or S.C. might decide to do a secession, but the majority of citizens in each state won't support it.

And imagine how costly it would be to implement in a time of straitened finances. It isn't going to happen.
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:15 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Why would we want to create a new state just because "It's been a while since the US admitted any new states"?

Your proposed The Steel Valley because sits squarely on top of an enormous amount of natural gas almost seems comical and more importantly, against the United States Constitution.

Perhaps we can advertise for those eligible countries to apply for statehood to the United States. But nothing else "just popped into" my head.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I think Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Connecticut should consolidate to become one state.

Puerto Rico, The Bahamas, and Bermuda are some other countries that should be added as states.

The Washington DC-Arlington-Fairfax, VA metropolitian area should form to become their own state.
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Western Colorado
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None. We need to break the US up if we have any hope of survival. Ditch the South once and for all.
Yeah. The "south" only has the largest retailer in the world, largest trucking company, largest poultry producer, largest producers of cotton and soy beans. Might want to rethink that.
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