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Old 08-03-2013, 08:21 AM
 
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The Paula Deen case has been debated at length. Obviously, some feel she is being picked on. Others feel she is getting what she deserves. However, what is wrong with holding celebrities to a higher standard of conduct than we hold our friends and neighbors too? We don't make millions of dollars based on publicity we get from interviews and often free media appearances. What the media can give. The media can take away.

I think something might be gained by making celebrities realize there is a severe price to be paid for being politically incorrect. These people set the standards and trends in our world--whether we like it on not. So, shouldn't they be subjected to serious sanctions if they cross the line?

Imagine how celebrities might behave if they didn't fear public opinion turning against them based on their behavior. We've seen some pretty bad stuff even in our present "politically correct" climate.

I say someone who becomes famous because of the media gets what they deserve when they behave in a politically incorrect way. Its all part and parcel of what they bargained for when they became a celebrity.

"For unto whom much is given, whomsoever much shall be expected" Luke 12:48 King James Bible.
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Old 08-03-2013, 08:59 AM
 
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Celebrities shouldn't be held to a higher standard of behavior than anyone else. It should be the same. If ordinary people do or say nasty things at school, work, or any other public place, there should be some sort of accounting. It would happen on this internet site.
Unfortunately, when you're in the limelight, people expect better behavior from them than from us.
Would we have even heard of the nasty behavior that Amanda Bynes did, if she were a nobody? Not likely.
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:14 AM
 
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Not all celebrities fear public opinion. ..No way should any special considerations or "higher standards" be expected from them...they might "set the standards" in some peoples worlds, but not mine, and not in a lot of others...they owe no one anything, they are entitled (like everyone else) to express their true feelings, be they "politically correct" or not...they are really no different than you and I...just in the limelight, something I'd rather not be anyways...How can we have "serious sanctions if they cross the line", when our own elected officials do it all the time...BLATANTLY
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:17 AM
 
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And why the backlash against Paula for things she said around 25 years ago about someone who mugged her? The press and Hollywood crowd love giving liberal celebrities many chances. But one southern cook who uses guilty unhealthy cooking admits saying something 25 years and she's a sacrificial lamb to slaughter.

I believe in holding celebrities accountable for their current behavior. By accountable, I mean by law. If they can freely admit a drug addiction and genuinely wish help, give them a chance. If they drive under the influence, drive recklessly through a residential then arrest the brat WITHOUT! negotiating with the lawyer. I don't feel celebrities should be held to a higher standard. They should be held to the same standards as the rest of us. Joe Blow on the street caught smoking weed will not receive a "get out of jail" card. There are some things some celebrities have done that I can never forgive nor forget. Drugging and raping a 13 year old girl then running to France to escape prison and still receive a standing ovation in Hollywood, but Paula used the N-word and she' blacklisted. A 30 something celebrity can call returning Vietnam POWs liars when they report the torture they endured and Hollywood loves you enough to give you several awards. You can nearly beat a man to death and record a rap album while showing your underwear then become a successful actor. You could be a member of a deadly street gang and still loved in Hollywood.
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Old 08-05-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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The Paula Deen case has been debated at length. Obviously, some feel she is being picked on. Others feel she is getting what she deserves. However, what is wrong with holding celebrities to a higher standard of conduct than we hold our friends and neighbors too? We don't make millions of dollars based on publicity we get from interviews and often free media appearances. What the media can give. The media can take away.

I think something might be gained by making celebrities realize there is a severe price to be paid for being politically incorrect. These people set the standards and trends in our world--whether we like it on not. So, shouldn't they be subjected to serious sanctions if they cross the line?

Imagine how celebrities might behave if they didn't fear public opinion turning against them based on their behavior. We've seen some pretty bad stuff even in our present "politically correct" climate.

I say someone who becomes famous because of the media gets what they deserve when they behave in a politically incorrect way. Its all part and parcel of what they bargained for when they became a celebrity.

"For unto whom much is given, whomsoever much shall be expected" Luke 12:48 King James Bible.




First, it's not "obvious" to everyone that Deen's "getting what she deserves," so let's chuck that idea.

Secondly, people who are celebrities are under no obligation to assume role-model status for the masses. In fact, it would be more helpful for the masses to drop their insane admiration for and obsession with all things Hollyweird.

Lastly, you're clearly hung-up on "polical correctness." Don't be.
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Old 08-06-2013, 04:10 PM
 
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Deen was hung out to dry for other reasons than what she said thirty years ago. If most of us were judged by comments we made thirty years ago we would all be in trouble.

Authority figures must be held to a higher standard. If for no other reason that the violation of trust they should be prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law. i.e., a police officer who commits a crime should receive a sentence double that of an ordinary criminal. Hollywood celebs are loons and should be not be considered role models in the first place. Sports hero's on the other hand are idolized by children and therefore should be held to a higher standard.
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Old 08-06-2013, 04:32 PM
 
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I pretty much Sir Charles said it best:


Nike Air commercial Charles Barkley - YouTube

Likewise, actors are paid to mimic emotions in front of a camera. Models are paid to pose in front of a camera. Singers are paid to make pleasing noises into a microphone. That's it. If you're really looking for a celebrity to give you hints on how to live your life, you are either shallow or unhinged.

However, by the very nature of their jobs, presidents, senators, representatives, governors, mayors and other holders of public office have an absolute duty to the society they were elected to lead. Big difference.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:32 PM
 
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<snip> Sir Charles said it best:


Nike Air commercial Charles Barkley - YouTube

Absolutely agree! He is not a role model, he is a basketball player. Parents are their children's role models, for better and/or for worse.

Likewise, actors are paid to mimic emotions in front of a camera. Models are paid to pose in front of a camera. Singers are paid to make pleasing noises into a microphone. That's it. If you're really looking for a celebrity to give you hints on how to live your life, you are either shallow or unhinged.

But one will definitely be looking in the wrong direction. Throughout man's history there are plenty of role models, just regular people who did great things and were extraordinary human beings.

However, by the very nature of their jobs, presidents, senators, representatives, governors, mayors and other holders of public office have an absolute duty to the society they were elected to lead. Big difference.
I agree that they should set an example and lead, however, they are perhaps the poorest examples of role models that there are, imho. It makes it very difficult as a parent to explain to our young people how

What honorable role models there are in our modern world, unfortunately, do not get the media attention they should because typically they are average people, living average lives until they are thrust into the spotlight and their moral compass and humanity are highlighted.

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In their minds and the medias, they are way, way above our laws and standards.
Sadly and unfortunately, true!

Best regards, sincerely

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Old 08-06-2013, 09:57 PM
 
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Celebrities are beautiful. Not only are they hot, they are rich and successful. So of course people are going to listen to what they say because they have everything Americans are told they should have.

That said, celebrities ought to be given a special status in society such as foreign diplomats are afforded. These people are on TV, in movies, contribute significantly enough to the GDP and work hard spreading culture worldwide and so should be given special protection from unflattering attention from the likes of paparazzi and gossip sites. Think how wonderful it would have been if Whitney Houston had received a full-on state funeral! What that would have done for the hearts and minds of Americans and people all around the world!

How anyone can refer to celebrities as loons is an indication of someone being wholly out of touch with reality. Who in their right minds would toss $20 million at a 'loon'? No one! Who would invite these supposed loons onto their TV shows and converse with them amiably? No one! What sort of fool would admire success and hard-work if these famous people were loons? None!

Hating on famous people is like hating on the person one actually sees or knows who is successful in life when the hater has nothing going on for themselves for whatever reason. Celebrities are celebrated for the reason that they have it going on and that makes people who having nothing going angry and bitter.
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Old 08-07-2013, 07:44 AM
 
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Celebrities are beautiful. Not only are they hot, they are rich and successful. So of course people are going to listen to what they say because they have everything Americans are told they should have.

That said, celebrities ought to be given a special status in society such as foreign diplomats are afforded. These people are on TV, in movies, contribute significantly enough to the GDP and work hard spreading culture worldwide and so should be given special protection from unflattering attention from the likes of paparazzi and gossip sites. Think how wonderful it would have been if Whitney Houston had received a full-on state funeral! What that would have done for the hearts and minds of Americans and people all around the world!

How anyone can refer to celebrities as loons is an indication of someone being wholly out of touch with reality. Who in their right minds would toss $20 million at a 'loon'? No one! Who would invite these supposed loons onto their TV shows and converse with them amiably? No one! What sort of fool would admire success and hard-work if these famous people were loons? None!

Hating on famous people is like hating on the person one actually sees or knows who is successful in life when the hater has nothing going on for themselves for whatever reason. Celebrities are celebrated for the reason that they have it going on and that makes people who having nothing going angry and bitter.
Wow, full blown celebrity worship! "Full-on state funeral" for a crack head? Are you serious? Hard working? Seriously? At one time, actors and singers gave of themselves even after becoming a big name celebrity. Today's big name celebrities are fawned over so much that they act as if their coming down from Mount Olympus to meet with the commoners are doing the commoners a favor by gracing them with their aura. Having the ability to memorize a few lines and repeat them does not make one so great as to deserve such high status, especially not a full-on state funeral. I think those who are awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor should be held up to the status you hold towards drug addict actors and singers like Whitney.
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