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Do you think sometimes that the political unit is too large or do you think the US will still stay in tact?
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This is actually a pretty good question.
How about this; The year: 2093. A nuclear device is sneaked into New York City by a terrorist. The bomb is detonated, killing 9 million. A few months later a second nuclear explosion in Houston kills 5 million. The country is then divided into "security regions" that are independent nations that have alliances much like the U.S. has with Canada.
How about this; The year; 2071. Due to high numbers of illegal immigration, the extremely crowded, mostly Hispanic southwest votes for independence, making Southern California, Arizona, and New Mexico a separate nation.
You can think up all kinds of catastrophes but the US has endured plenty of catastrophes before- and has stayed united. So, if our history is an indication, we will stay united.
How about this; The year: 2093. A nuclear device is sneaked into New York City by a terrorist. The bomb is detonated, killing 9 million. A few months later a second nuclear explosion in Houston kills 5 million. The country is then divided into "security regions" that are independent nations that have alliances much like the U.S. has with Canada.
Why would terrorist attacks lead to the desire for separatism? After every attack on the US, there's been a groundswell of patriotism, from the Confederates firing on Sumter in 1861 to the bombing of the US Maine in 1898 to Pearl Harbor in 1941 to 9-11.
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How about this; The year; 2071. Due to high numbers of illegal immigration, the extremely crowded, mostly Hispanic southwest votes for independence, making Southern California, Arizona, and New Mexico a separate nation.
What makes you think that people who fled Mexico and Central America for the US don't want to become Americans? In 60 years, the children/grandchildren/great grandchildren of today's illegal Latino immigrants will only be distinguishable from other Americans by their last names, and some by their looks, much like the last "hordes of aliens" who invaded the US: the Italians, Poles, Russian Jews, and other assorted peasants from southern and eastern Europe who came to the US between 1890 and 1920.
Furthermore, why do you think they would huddle in the Southwest since Latino immigrants are already found all over the country? Maybe, instead of wanting to form a separate nation, they'll just take over the US and make Spanish the official language!
I see no problems that will mean anything but solution in a swing of the political pendulum has Biden likes to call it. I see states taking about a lot of controls and feds no control because we are looking at cuts either not or when crisis demands it like Greece .Democracy has always been about conflict in views and large shifts by results in governing.
You can think up all kinds of catastrophes but the US has endured plenty of catastrophes before- and has stayed united. So, if our history is an indication, we will stay united.
I agree. If anything, American culture is becoming much more homogenous than it has ever been as we share a national media that shapes mainstream attitudes and as more and more people travel/move to different parts of the country.
What area of the US today could rationally be considered significantly different from the rest of the US in its culture?
How about this; The year: 2093. A nuclear device is sneaked into New York City by a terrorist. The bomb is detonated, killing 9 million. A few months later a second nuclear explosion in Houston kills 5 million. The country is then divided into "security regions" that are independent nations that have alliances much like the U.S. has with Canada.
How about this; The year; 2071. Due to high numbers of illegal immigration, the extremely crowded, mostly Hispanic southwest votes for independence, making Southern California, Arizona, and New Mexico a separate nation.
Jericho presented that kind of scenerio, except a series of smaller bombs on the ground in twenty three major cities. Suddenly isolated, the grid collapsed,food not being delivered, everything became local.
Our point of view is a small town in Kansas, but there the gangs take over the highways, and within the year they are at the point of war with the nearest town over food.
Of course there is more to the why, but I think their portrayal of the world which comes when the US shuts down is pretty on target. Today, with our intricately connected world let alone nation, cut the flow one little place and its effects are repeated down the line. Especially food, which is no longer warehoused but produced and shipped. What do people eat if nothing shows up to fill the shelves after its been ransacked? What happens when the hospital runs out of drugs? What do you do when its icy cold and you can't turn on the heat?
We'd get back to a sort of frontier, eventually, but minus an awful lot of population. Long before it would be new nations it would be purely local. The first place to have enough of an army to take over wins all the cookies.
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