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If you are a professional or in a profession that has a lot of publicity, you should be very careful with sex regardless of drunk or not. If a woman seems to easy or eager she may have an agenda or is just straight crazy.
Even if you are innocent court of public opinion, which immediately condemns any man as a rapist even when facts aren't known, will make your life hell.
I was brought up on rape charges in 1997 as a military airman in foreign country. At that time tensions were high between the US and this country and this country had a very odd attitude about rape.
The US did a good job protecting me so I could lead a normal life. But the local papers got a zoomed in picture from like a quarter of a mile away with a scowl on my face and it was ran as front page news in the small community. From that day forth I was restricted to base, which really sucked because I wanted to visit that country more than anything.
I was eventually acquitted because her story was crap, (luckily her culture is good about telling the truth). She told them what happened, and they all agreed there was no case (she didn't understand the legal definition of rape), but the local authorities and lawyers used the case as leverage in US relations. So now I was a political pawn. But I was not the only one at this time there were 20 cases of different US soldiers being accused of various things. It still continues to this date. I don't even know why we have a presence there anymore.
Anyway, after 3 months of 6-7 hour days talking with ADC and JAG I was finally acquitted, and was PCSed back to the US. I had to dress in a disguise to go to the airport and have a special escorts to put me on the plane.
I lost hair, I became severely depressed, became stir crazy, I was a nervous wreck. I really did feel like a prisoner.
I had never been so glad to be on an airplane headed to the US.
I'm not saying there are not cases where men were raping women, there certainly were. My belief was that the girls were all looking for paydays after some huge payouts were reported. The local girls knew we were weak and wanted them badly. Oddly enough they sought us out and hung out at places we frequented, its been that way in every county we have bases in, even the Arab ones, unbelievable but true. It's not like we went trolling for them in places we were not supposed to be.
The point is, you take a risk anytime alcohol is present, or even if it isn't. Let's just say man or woman, you take a risk. Probably more so if you are a man tough. I didn't have sex with any women who had any alcohol in their system from that day forth. If they wanted to meet up the next night or another weekend that was fine. But I felt better after about two weeks when all my friends (especially females) had seen us together I felt okay, there was little chance of a rape charge now.
No offense man but I worked in JAG and you sound like a rapist. What does it mean "the girls knew were weak and wanted them badly?" I have lived in a foreign country and had relations with foreign nationals (I actually married one) so did many of my friends. None of us were ever brought up on rape charges. You know were brought up on rape charges? Guys (like many in this thread) who think it's alright to take girls home who are clearly intoxicated and have sex with them. Now have there been some false rape charges? Without a doubt. But I'd say I have seen way more women who refused to bring charges forth against guys who raped them. The funny thing is that most rapist sound just like you. I didn't do anything wrong, she wanted it, she wasn't that drunk. How hard is it to wait until someone is completely sober or maybe until you get to know them (the horror) before you jump in the sack with them.
I will concede one point. Under this definition men are raped quite frequently as well. I know many guys who have woke up with females and they had no idea how they got into their rooms or what happened the night before. I think that this is just as wrong as men who sleep with drunk women. Unfortunately our society makes men believe that they have to want sex all the time and if they report such incidents they will be less than a man. Personally, I'd prosecute both perps to the fullest extent of the law.
But if she's drunk than that "yeah" is mew ingles and does not give you consent to have sex with her.
Yes it does, pending, of course, her feelings about the situation once she returns to sobriety. Will she report it as an incident of sexual assault to the authorities, or will she accept her ****-up and resolve to not take so many shots at the frat-house next weekend?
Either way, she's in the driver's seat (and that's the whole point, isn't it?).
Yes it does, pending, of course, her feelings about the situation once she returns to sobriety. Will she report it as an incident of sexual assault to the authorities, or will she accept her ****-up and resolve to not take so many shots at the frat-house next weekend?
Either way, she's in the driver's seat (and that's the whole point, isn't it?).
No, she's not in the drivers seat...she is DRUNK! A drunk girl is not in a position to grant sexual consent. Would you willfully take advantage of such a situation? It seems to me that you would, then you'd blame the woman for being drunk, as if somehow she deserved it just for getting drunk. I wonder if you believe that a woman who wears revealing clothing in public and gets sexually assaulted is also to blame for that?
People who get drunk in the first place are irresponsible. People who take advantage of the drunk are irresponsible. It is not a "wah wah let's blame somebody" thing. It is EVERYBODY take responsibility for your actions. Most people are too immature to drink responsibly sadly. It's the fault of all involved if anything happens, and it is the type of scenario I can well do without in my life personally.
People who get drunk in the first place are irresponsible. People who take advantage of the drunk are irresponsible. It is not a "wah wah let's blame somebody" thing. It is EVERYBODY take responsibility for your actions. Most people are too immature to drink responsibly sadly. It's the fault of all involved if anything happens, and it is the type of scenario I can well do without in my life personally.
No one has really defined "drunk" in this entire thread.
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