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Why would anyone, male or female, want to have sex with a drunk person? Drunk people are gross and unable to make an informed decision. I want a man I choose to be out of his mind with desire for me, and I want him to remember every single detail. He needs to be focused on me, and a drunk guy can't do that well. In many states it is considered rape if a girl can't give her consent.
From a sober standpoint, it's rather difficult to understand why anyone would be so inclined as to have sex with a drunk partner (that breath!). It would definitely be my opinion that sex really is something best reserved for people of sober minds and clear inhibitions, a sense of boundaries, etc. The sober person who opts to have sex with a drunk partner, however, should not by any stretch be viewed as having objectively committed rape against a drunk who pursues them for sex (as others have mentioned previously, you might also consider the relationship between the two individuals in question).
A sober person pursuing a drunk partner (again, depending on the relationship between the two individuals) isn't something I would deem ethical per se (though to me it only looks cheap and desperate), but I wouldn't accept the argument that they've engaged in any sort of criminality in regard to sex with a conscious drunk, regardless of what the women's lobbies have accomplished in terms these particular sex "crimes".
I don't get drunk for several reading. Issues like this one are one reason, and I think the problem is when the girl is very young. Usually, she is not used to drinking, plied with alcohol; and then her reasoning is not what it should be. It could work the same for a male, but it seems to be happening to young girls not males. Sometimes more than one male is involved which makes it more suspect. I just would advise anyone I know to make sure their partner knows what is happening.
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Originally Posted by diablo234
There is a huge difference between being drunk and being blacked out.
Exactly!
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Originally Posted by Georgianbelle
Why would anyone, male or female, want to have sex with a drunk person? Drunk people are gross and unable to make an informed decision.
I think some of you guys need a quick reminder on what "legally drunk" actually is.
For my weight, I would be legally considered drunk after TWO beers. Just two, and in some states more like a bit over ONE beer. Now this isn't SNL, and I'm not a "Zima girl", so that logic doesn't fly for me, lol.
But someone who has had a beer or two, isn't "gross" or "unable to make informed decisions".
There are varying levels of drunkenness, a borderline legally drunk person, isn't much if ANY different if they were sober, but someone who downs a whole fifth of Cuervo (been there, BTW, lol!) is a whole nother kettle of fish!
So if I get drunk and some fat girl talks me into sleeping with her, is she a rapist? Obviously it's not my fault because the alcohol impaired my judgement.... AMIRITE?. Never mined the fact that I decided to have 12 drinks at the bar. I'm still a victim that's been sexually violated because I was not in the position to give consent right?
If all was fair this would be true; however, a feminazi like yourself would still see me as the bad guy. Thing is, I know guys that have kids because of scenarios like that. Being that they were "raped" shouldn't they get full custody and squeeze 18 years of child support from these heifers that mounted them without their consent.
I just don't know about this world anymore
I never said it makes you a rapist, but it is very shaky ground. My point is that if you are sober and the woman is drunk, regardless of whether she is "all over you", she is not in a position to consent, so you would be completely wrong for taking advantage of that situation and yes, it can put you at risk of being accused of rape
The implications of what you are saying are dangerous. You are basically implying that because a woman is drunk and not in control of her faculties, she should just be easy pickings for some a**hole to take advantage of the situation and have sex with her, when the decent and right thing to do would be to reject her advances and walk away. But no....a drunk woman is easy pickings for a lot of men.
Calling someone a feminazi for simply expressing a different opinion than yours is just silly too. Was there any need for that? I wasn't disrespecting you.
If Dr. Phil were drunk and forced into sex, would he enjoy being raped? Either way, he should buy a clue...maybe half a brain to go along with that clue.
If you are a professional or in a profession that has a lot of publicity, you should be very careful with sex regardless of drunk or not. If a woman seems to easy or eager she may have an agenda or is just straight crazy.
Even if you are innocent court of public opinion, which immediately condemns any man as a rapist even when facts aren't known, will make your life hell.
I was brought up on rape charges in 1997 as a military airman in foreign country. At that time tensions were high between the US and this country and this country had a very odd attitude about rape.
The US did a good job protecting me so I could lead a normal life. But the local papers got a zoomed in picture from like a quarter of a mile away with a scowl on my face and it was ran as front page news in the small community. From that day forth I was restricted to base, which really sucked because I wanted to visit that country more than anything.
I was eventually acquitted because her story was crap, (luckily her culture is good about telling the truth). She told them what happened, and they all agreed there was no case (she didn't understand the legal definition of rape), but the local authorities and lawyers used the case as leverage in US relations. So now I was a political pawn. But I was not the only one at this time there were 20 cases of different US soldiers being accused of various things. It still continues to this date. I don't even know why we have a presence there anymore.
Anyway, after 3 months of 6-7 hour days talking with ADC and JAG I was finally acquitted, and was PCSed back to the US. I had to dress in a disguise to go to the airport and have a special escorts to put me on the plane.
I lost hair, I became severely depressed, became stir crazy, I was a nervous wreck. I really did feel like a prisoner.
I had never been so glad to be on an airplane headed to the US.
I'm not saying there are not cases where men were raping women, there certainly were. My belief was that the girls were all looking for paydays after some huge payouts were reported. The local girls knew we were weak and wanted them badly. Oddly enough they sought us out and hung out at places we frequented, its been that way in every county we have bases in, even the Arab ones, unbelievable but true. It's not like we went trolling for them in places we were not supposed to be.
The point is, you take a risk anytime alcohol is present, or even if it isn't. Let's just say man or woman, you take a risk. Probably more so if you are a man tough. I didn't have sex with any women who had any alcohol in their system from that day forth. If they wanted to meet up the next night or another weekend that was fine. But I felt better after about two weeks when all my friends (especially females) had seen us together I felt okay, there was little chance of a rape charge now.
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