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Old 02-27-2014, 06:42 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Healthcare should be a public service so no. The idea you should let people die because they don't have enough bits of paper is immoral IMHO.
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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You will get treated. You probably will need to file for bankruptcy and might not like some of the solutions, but you will get treatment. Charity does not take away all financial burden, except for in a few cases. There ARE many charities that can take the edge off and also provide transportation and, in some cases, housing.

In my case, I had to continue working full time in order to pay my rent and maintain health insurance, and it took me 3 years to get out of the debt the disease left me in (though I recognize that's less than many people).
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You will get treated. You probably will need to file for bankruptcy and might not like some of the solutions, but you will get treatment. Charity does not take away all financial burden, except for in a few cases. There ARE many charities that can take the edge off and also provide transportation and, in some cases, housing.

In my case, I had to continue working full time in order to pay my rent and maintain health insurance, and it took me 3 years to get out of the debt the disease left me in (though I recognize that's less than many people).
Really? I've read horror stories about people not getting chemotherapy treatments because they couldn't pay. Does the paperwork you have to submit to be eligible for charity take a while to get approved?
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You will get treated. You probably will need to file for bankruptcy and might not like some of the solutions, but you will get treatment. Charity does not take away all financial burden, except for in a few cases. There ARE many charities that can take the edge off and also provide transportation and, in some cases, housing.

In my case, I had to continue working full time in order to pay my rent and maintain health insurance, and it took me 3 years to get out of the debt the disease left me in (though I recognize that's less than many people).
And how were you physically able to work while going through chemotherapy? Doesn't that just zap all the energy out of you and make you sick?
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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And how were you physically able to work while going through chemotherapy? Doesn't that just zap all the energy out of you and make you sick?
You really have a lot of misconceptions about cancer.

Not everyone is getting it. The number of people with cancer increases a little each year because the population is increasing, meaning more folks are available who can get it. The actual rates of many cancers, corrected for population, are going down.

Many cancer patients are cured with just surgery. They have an operation, recover, and go back to work, just like someone who had an appendectomy would do.

Not all chemotherapy is the same. Side effects differ and there is treatment for them. Not all treatments cost $100,000 per year. Many people take time off to receive chemo and then go back to work or school.

My son who was treated for leukemia missed a lot of school. We did make up work at home. Ultimately, he graduated from high school with his original class.

No one should die from cancer because of lack of money. People without money get treated, just like people who do not have money who are in automobile accidents get treated.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:32 PM
 
Location: On the Ohio River in Western, KY
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Yeah, I realize there are a lot of other diseases, but I was just focusing on cancer since it seems to be affecting the most people these days.
What about other "treatments" other than chemo? (I mean pain management, nausea meds, appetite stimulants, etc..) Not everyone that gets cancer wants or agrees to chemo/radiation.

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And how were you physically able to work while going through chemotherapy? Doesn't that just zap all the energy out of you and make you sick?
I know people who have died from chemo, which is why if I am ever in that position, I will refuse it.
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Old 02-27-2014, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Delray Beach
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Sure.
Why not?

Loaded question --> loaded answer.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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You really have a lot of misconceptions about cancer.

Not everyone is getting it. The number of people with cancer increases a little each year because the population is increasing, meaning more folks are available who can get it. The actual rates of many cancers, corrected for population, are going down.

Many cancer patients are cured with just surgery. They have an operation, recover, and go back to work, just like someone who had an appendectomy would do.

Not all chemotherapy is the same. Side effects differ and there is treatment for them. Not all treatments cost $100,000 per year. Many people take time off to receive chemo and then go back to work or school.

My son who was treated for leukemia missed a lot of school. We did make up work at home. Ultimately, he graduated from high school with his original class.

No one should die from cancer because of lack of money. People without money get treated, just like people who do not have money who are in automobile accidents get treated.
I just constantly hear of people getting it, so it gets me worried. One in two men and one in three women will get cancer.. http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/551998

I just went to a funeral last week of someone who had lung cancer. I wasn't close with her, but it really made me start thinking how anyone can get cancer and how fast it can kill someone.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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What about other "treatments" other than chemo? (I mean pain management, nausea meds, appetite stimulants, etc..) Not everyone that gets cancer wants or agrees to chemo/radiation.



I know people who have died from chemo, which is why if I am ever in that position, I will refuse it.
Well in many cases if you can't surgically remove the cancer, you have no choice but to get chemo or radiation. It's very unlikely you will live otherwise.
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:10 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Cancer seems to be affecting more and more people these days. Although there have been a lot of advances in the different drugs used to treat cancer, I truly wonder how people afford them. I read somewhere that the chemotherapy for one year will cost over $100,000. Even if they have insurance, how do cancer patients manage to pay the remaining costs?

If a cancer patient does not have insurance or enough money to pay for treatments, should we just let him die? I know that everyone is now eligible for health insurance, but that doesn't mean it's affordable. A lot of people are opting out and paying the fine because they can't afford the premiums. So what should a person do if he finds out he has cancer? Should he quit his job and see if he can at least qualify for Medicaid?

I've never personally known anyone in this situation, but I am very curious about all of this. Do you believe there should be more options for cancer patients without insurance? Have you personally known anyone who has got cancer with no insurance?
Well, depending on how much money he or she has they probably should take their savings and travel to costa rica, cuba, malaysia or some other country and get the healthcare there. They probably won't qualify for medicaid unless they're practically destitute.
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