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Aaaaand your point is? The OP is claiming things way beyond what you're discussing here, and I don't see how it's anyone's business if someone is an addict. You know what I really DO panic over, if I run out? Tobacco. Pot is great to have, and luckily I never have to worry about finding it (we have clubs too, just under the guise of "medical clinics") - but I've gone without a zillion times, and haven't once experienced actual withdrawals. When I can't have a cigarette for xxx hours, however, I feel like I'm going to knock the teeth out of the next person who crosses my path. But THIS is the legal drug? 'Murica, gotta love it.
Exactly, same here. I smoked pot when I was a teenager/early 20's. At one point, I decided I didn't want to smoke it anymore. so stopped. In my late 40's, I had a botched back surgery that causes horrific pain. I was offered hard core drug, all kinds. I tried some, but I was the one always telling the Dr to lower dosage or try something less dangerous. I never use as many as the recommended dosage, only when the pain is unbearable. I tried other herbs that didn't help. If I smoke some pot now and then, it works better than anything and I can avoid the side effects of every prescription med and I can get a good nights sleep.
Now. cigarettes I have smoked for years. I want to quit. Even for the price and the feeling horrible when they are the one thing you will go get no matter how the weather. Luckily, I don't have any health problems yet. I am having a horrible time kicking that habit but I will..eventually. There are no comparisons on the terms of which is more addictive for me.
The new "fad" of vapor pens to inhale are not all THC. You get choices. I think the high THC sold in the mini-cartrides is only several drops or so & CBD & Hybrid are more? Need to check dispensary websites to be certain as info on company site is far from complete. Honest company, hasn't been able to produce enough to keep up with demand as shortage of workers. Great for CO economy, IMO
The vaping pens are here to stay IMO because they solve these problems: No smoke smell wars, some states are going to be allowing vaping cannabis only, in part because they don't want to have to have people checking farms & transporters to find out if they are illegal untaxed or not. If people smoke cannabis in usual ways, much of very healthful cannabis oil is burnt up before it can be inhaled. The cannabis oil in the pens is the same product that was in pharmacies for nearly 100 years. It has been proven to help over 200 medical conditions, mostly by medical scientists specializing in this 1 plant.
Cannabis has been used since our earliest recorded history with 0 deaths as a direct result. Every person that has seriously studied this plant will tell you that.
Most pills can have profound side effects, including death, about 125,000 American deaths a year. Cigarettes (tobacco) may cause 300,000+ American deaths a year, alcohol 100,000+. Are you more concerned about a drug that refuses to kill & helps treat 200+ conditions, than all drugs that do kill?
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Related is the new fad of using vapor pens to inhale concentrated THC (not a few times X, exponentially more). The health concerns haven't been studied yet but legalizing marijuana will quickly enable commercial enterprises to ramp up production faster than anyone can effective study the health effects.
Part of the issue is the toxins that can be introduced in the process of concentration and when those are inhaled they are of course, toxic to the body.
Like many things, marijuana in the most common form might be benign but it won't stay that way. The hand wrapped job will go the way of hand wrapped cigarettes and the consequences of the vapor pens coupled with high concentrations of the active ingredients directly inhaled will produce profound side effects, none of them healthful.
While one can say that regulations and so on will deal with those issues, look how fast vapor cigarettes took off. Anyone believe that technology won't take off faster with marijuana? [MOD CUT/off topic]
Pot can be taxed like alcohol which is great for the support of our country and also profitable for big business.
Not legalizing marijuana would be too anti-patriotic and foolish.
Most pills can have profound side effects, including death, about 125,000 American deaths a year. Cigarettes (tobacco) may cause 300,000+ American deaths a year, alcohol 100,000+. Are you more concerned about a drug that refuses to kill & helps treat 200+ conditions, than all drugs that do kill?
Not to mention all the lives effected by abuse. I have a family relative that can trace all his negative poor choices in life back to alcohol, he just cannot handle alcohol well, yet he continues to use it. He has given it up and switched to pot and really made himself useful and made gains in his life, all to lose it to alcohol once again, over and over. I really wish he would just give up the alcohol and use cannabis instead. Ideally speaking being sober for them would be best, but starting with baby steps first would be great. Ditch the booze and grab a vape.
I didn't read all the responses to your post. I've known people with various chemical dependencies and the pot smokers, are by far, the calmest, most laid-back and personable of them all. I have never been concerned about a pot addict stealing from me or becoming obnoxious. I've never understood why it's illegal when nicotine and alcohol are and clearly cause quite a bit of trouble for people. I'm not suggesting that out-of-control pot users can't be outrageous. I am just pointing out that I've never met them. Granted, I've never experimented with any drugs so I only know this from an observational standpoint.
my brother smoke weed all his life five , six a day, every day. he became a space cadet, yes he could work but it fried his memory. in ally it killed him. Just how can one say having the high feeling is good for you to survive. people say they weed is totally safe, but all those chemicals can't be good for you. especially since the manfacting and pro ducting the product in uncontrolled. no telling what they are adding to the product.
my brother smoke weed all his life five , six a day, every day. he became a space cadet, yes he could work but it fried his memory. in ally it killed him. Just how can one say having the high feeling is good for you to survive. people say they weed is totally safe, but all those chemicals can't be good for you. especially since the manfacting and pro ducting the product in uncontrolled. no telling what they are adding to the product.
Are you the first person on the Earth to claim in 10,000 years of cannabis use that it claimed your brothers life?
"Weed" does not kill brain cells, it can cause short term memory loss, however. If your brother died I would suspect other harder drugs to be the blame, not "weed".
Right, and the post I was answering is so spot on. Lying to yourself isn't healthy, just FYI.
Here is a bunch of lies you can read. I'm sure you can disprove it all. We know now pot is just as harmless as water. DrugFacts: Marijuana | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)
It's biased information used to influence uninformed and personally inexperienced persons like yourself. I guess you still wear your D.A.R.E. t-shirt.
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my brother smoke weed all his life five , six a day, every day. he became a space cadet, yes he could work but it fried his memory. in ally it killed him. Just how can one say having the high feeling is good for you to survive. people say they weed is totally safe, but all those chemicals can't be good for you. especially since the manfacting and pro ducting the product in uncontrolled. no telling what they are adding to the product.
The marijuana did not kill him. It would have make global news.
No body puts stuff in weed. They would either get killed or lose all their customers. Potheads don't smoke laced weed, nor do they run into that problem often. I've never once seen any weed that has been laced, it's also way too expensive for drug dealers to put more than one type of drug into a bag, and sell it for the same price, all the while losing customers. It makes no sense and happens only in really rare cases.
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