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Old 05-29-2014, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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It is a little hard to say, I think I would need more information. I guess logically it would make sense to say that the majority of those employed with Google has a computer based job (or engineering/math of some sort). There is also accounting, pr, human resources, etc. (things that are not necessarily related to computers, science or math). According to the 2011 US Census Bureau, Blacks ages 25-64 only held 6% of all STEM Jobs. Of that 6% only 7% were in the field of computers. The numbers are similar with Hispanics. 6.5% of all working Hispanics ages 25-64 had a STEM occupation. Of that 6% are computer related. So it is not like Google has a huge pool to work with. The numbers of Asians in the STEM field are a stark contrast to Hispanics and Blacks. http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/acs-24.pdf

Though I do believe Google can do a better job in hiring minorities. B/c even if there are less Black individuals majoring in the STEM fields "unemployment rates are higher for minority scientists and engineers than for white scientists and engineers, and the rate is higher for Asian female than for Asian male scientists and engineers," (source http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/wmpd/2...304_digest.pdf). Which I think is reflective of how people prefer their own race, gender, people of the same religion, etc and this preference maybe exercised (consciously or not) through the hiring process.
You need more information?

lolol.

If Google says it has a 2% black work force, where on earth are you going to find more information. Don't you suppose they would know?

Looks like a simple fact.

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Originally Posted by SuckaFree123456 View Post
As an Hispanic I do not believe tech companies should be forced to hire based on race/gender. The best candidates should always get the job. There is just not enough minorities and women earning computer science degrees in the U.S. Nothing Google can do about that.
Right on!

 
Old 05-29-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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I work for an engineering firm, the owner is a professor at the local university, so every quarter he will hire a couple black student. He want to have some black engineers, due to government contracts. He just can't find any that smart enough to do the job. Its not a hard job, you just have ti be professional. The last guy quit because all he wanted to do was play basketball. he was a university jock and the job was getting into his practice time for the NBA tryouts.

We just can't find any. We have a couple in the labor force but none in the engineers dept.
 
Old 05-29-2014, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home...CHICAGO
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should there be a quota system?

there arent alot of black hackers or the computer geek type
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Originally Posted by Pinkmani View Post
I doubt it, blacks just don't do computer careers, but the black millennials that are in school are realizing that their computer geekism is actually useful. This is coming from a black person.
Wrong.

I've known PLENTY of black "computer geeks" throughout my life. Pretty much every place I have worked, the IT or programming staff has been half black, mostly black or all black in both the public and private sectors. My best friend is a black female IT project manager. In fact I have known or have come in contact with more black IT professionals than white ones outside of Indians.

I'm black and I'm going back to school to earn a degree in IT myself.
 
Old 05-29-2014, 06:32 PM
 
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Representation in regards to employment is based on the availability of the skill in the population; the EEOC, OFCCP, and Justice Department base their investigations off the availability as shown by the US Census EEO data tool.

The accusation here is Google uses discrimination in hiring; I just showed you that the only discrimination occurring at Google, if any, are against whites and males as they are the two most under represented groups at Google.
Your definition is correct. "Under Represented: Inadequately represented in the work force of a particular activity. This term is used to describe the extent to which women and minorities are represented in particular grade levels and job categories. The percentage of women and minorities in the labor market is used as a standard to determine under representation. For example, suppose there are 100 GS-12's at an agency; three of them or 3% are black. However, the black labor market for GS-12 positions at that particular activity is 15%. In this case, blacks are under represented at the GS -12 level." EEO Terminology. But in 2010 51% of science and engineering workforce was white men. So according to that recent data they would be over represented. According to the 2011 census white men and women made up 67.9% of computer occupations. Google doesn't show the percentage of white men or white women.
 
Old 05-29-2014, 06:37 PM
 
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I also personally know of many Black IT specialist. But IT is in no way on the same level as computer/electrical engineers. Which I think Google mostly hires as opposed to IT guys.
 
Old 05-29-2014, 09:29 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Ace_TX View Post
should there be a quota system?

there arent alot of black hackers or the computer geek type
You must not work in the industry then. I know plenty of black programmers, engineers, and all around geeks. They like the same geeky stuff as the rest of us.

77.9% of the United States register as "white." Can I register as spotted? lol
Census

Of course Google is going to have more techs that are "white" because it's a numbers game at this point. The whole racist company thing seems like a moot point.
 
Old 05-29-2014, 09:44 PM
 
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If I owed google affirmative action would be a NONE ISSUE. It wouldn't happen !

Any reason for a successful company like google to change their formula ?
 
Old 05-29-2014, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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I didn't think it was a secret that the majority of tech companies are predominantly staffed by white males. I'm surprised Google says 30% of their employees are female. How many of them are support staff rather than decision-makers? I'm glad to know they acknowledge they need to improve.
 
Old 05-29-2014, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Ontario
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Maybe they don't get enough high quality black applicants, which wouldn't be a shock given the culture/situation that black babies are typically born into. I very much doubt a company that size would have racism ingrained in its recruiting staff.
 
Old 05-29-2014, 10:58 PM
 
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I didn't think it was a secret that the majority of tech companies are predominantly staffed by white males. I'm surprised Google says 30% of their employees are female. How many of them are support staff rather than decision-makers? I'm glad to know they acknowledge they need to improve.
Here's from USA Today:

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Google discloses its (lack of) diversity

Eighty-three percent of Google's tech workers internationally are male. For non-tech jobs, the number is 52%. Its leadership is made of up 79% men.
Based on the abysmal amount of women majoring in computer science if anything they are over represented. The only thing they would be improving is their political correctness,
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