World War III has begun? (Iraq, middle east, Israel, soldier)
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The USA has been mired in Middle Eastern wars for years, even decades if you go back to Desert Storm. Israel is in a state of perpetual conflict with its neighbors for decades as well. Despite all this, Islamofascism and extremism just continue to grow and spread. Per the NYTimes today ISIS has established links with central African group(s) well outside of the middle east. Nato and the western European states are being increasingly drawn into the maelstrom as well.
50 years from now it's obvious to me that we will regard the present as the early stages of WWIII much like the geopolitical events of 1930's leaing directly into WWII.
Is there anybody that seriously doubts this interpretation? If so, why? Others may see some kind of WWIII as inevitable. What do you see as the outcomes or geopolitical realignments in 50 years (or a time period of your choosing)?
Last edited by Oldhag1; 03-08-2015 at 04:07 PM..
Reason: Removed political references - off topic
I think you're being overdramatic. ISIS isn't a big threat to any developed country. The media just needs a hype train so they can gain viewers and money.
There will not be another global conflict like the two 20th century world wars. The principle powers are far too economically interdependent these days. They realize there's nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.
no .There has always been such conflict and leading countries in them. British Empire end when they could control the Empire. WWI actually start the collapse of European empires when they went broke fighting each other. At the end they were all broke and US actually has more gold than all of them combined.Tthat is when all currencies became link to dollar and its gold backing. Then by time Nixon went off gold standard Great Society spending had reduced the dollar to 73 cents in gold. We have been living off trust ever since.
I agree the US needs to "aid" in ridding the world of ISIS. What I don't understand is why the countries in the mideast that are directly affected by ISIS aren't doing more to confront and eliminate them. Why is it the US is suppose to be the Mighty Mouse of the world? AFA Israel, we give them millions of dollars (as we do other countries in the mid east) and they have a huge military force with planes bought from the US and we are again supposed to risk more of our men and women. What am I missing?
I agree the US needs to "aid" in ridding the world of ISIS. What I don't understand is why the countries in the mideast that are directly affected by ISIS aren't doing more to confront and eliminate them. Why is it the US is suppose to be the Mighty Mouse of the world? AFA Israel, we give them millions of dollars (as we do other countries in the mid east) and they have a huge military force with planes bought from the US and we are again supposed to risk more of our men and women. What am I missing?
The simple truth is that these countries all have significant numbers of extremists who approve of what ISIS does in Iraq, Libya and Syria. If they really waged full scale war against ISIS there could be major internal threats to their positions of power. They would much prefer that some 19 or 20 year old American soldier fight and die to save their own skins.
There will not be another global conflict like the two 20th century world wars. The principle powers are far too economically interdependent these days. They realize there's nothing to be gained and everything to be lost.
They said the same thing in WW1. There were all kinds of reasons why the world war couldn't happen they claimed. There are spots that are just as capable of 20th century wars all over the globe. How about India and Pakistan. Or the middle east. Anyone of those conflicts could draw in powers from all over the globe. As the present world order continues to collapse as it is doing in the middle east there will be more wars and eventually it will be a global reality.
Things have changed drastically over the past century.
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There were all kinds of reasons why the world war couldn't happen they claimed. There are spots that are just as capable of 20th century wars all over the globe. How about India and Pakistan. Or the middle east. Anyone of those conflicts could draw in powers from all over the globe. As the present world order continues to collapse as it is doing in the middle east there will be more wars and eventually it will be a global reality.
No superpower is going to sacrifice itself for the sake of India, Pakistan, or any craphole in the middle east. And the leaders of both India and Pakistan understand full well that a nuclear exchange would effectively put an end to their nations, which is a price they certainly aren't the least bit interested in paying.
No. The violence in the Middle East does not resemble in any way the arrestees of either the first or second world war, including the evens leading up to them. The only thing that recently happened that a WWIII scenario is even reasonable to use was the Russia-Ukraine incident, and that's calmed down quite a bit.
No, there will not be a WWIII, and if that happens, it will be the last war in this era of humanity. Once that happens, civilization will be destroyed and the last several hundred years of progress will be lost.
They said the same thing in WW1. There were all kinds of reasons why the world war couldn't happen they claimed. There are spots that are just as capable of 20th century wars all over the globe. How about India and Pakistan. Or the middle east. Anyone of those conflicts could draw in powers from all over the globe. As the present world order continues to collapse as it is doing in the middle east there will be more wars and eventually it will be a global reality.
No they didn't. Maybe you are confusing the belief that WWI was the war to end all wars only for WWII to happen. But nobody stated "a world war couldn't happen." Now if you had said "nobody wanted a WWI, this would have been accurate. Furthermore, when WWI took place, there was no real system of International law. There was no coalition to try and stop invasions.
The super powers of today are far more dependent on one another today than they were during WWI. It's not even close. Countries economies were no where near as impacted by others as they are today. That's not to say a World War can't or won't happen. I do believe that WWIII could happen and may even be inevitable if someone doesn't curtail US meddling in other countries affairs. Most US citizens are not aware that even the residents in our allied countries see us as the biggest threat to world peace.
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