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Old 05-07-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Marquette, Mich
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You don't know that. Just because something doesn't react like humans doesn't mean they don't feel. They might be laughing at you, lol. Just because we think we're so smart doesn't mean we actually are. And believe me, as stupid as humans have become, there's got to be something out there more intelligent than us.


As for taking what you need, I would never, ever not take a doggie bag if I can't finish my meal. And I take it for me, not the doggie. I don't like any kind of wasteful action, and more so with food than other things. Not to mention a lot of food is better the second day, anyway.
Yes, I do know they aren't laughing at me. Reacting with laughter requires a complex set of central nervous system functions. There is a lot we don't know, but plants don't have brains, they don't have nerves, they don't have ears, they don't have eyes, they don't have noses. We cannot attribute the trappings of higher life forms to plants because they do not have them. There are modes of "communication" that are involuntary, simple. Plants are not capable of human behavior. They aren't capable of otter behavior. They are not capable of python behavior. You want to complicate your life thinking they do? Enjoy.
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Old 05-08-2016, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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You don't know that. Just because something doesn't react like humans doesn't mean they don't feel. They might be laughing at you, lol. Just because we think we're so smart doesn't mean we actually are. And believe me, as stupid as humans have become, there's got to be something out there more intelligent than us.


As for taking what you need, I would never, ever not take a doggie bag if I can't finish my meal. And I take it for me, not the doggie. I don't like any kind of wasteful action, and more so with food than other things. Not to mention a lot of food is better the second day, anyway.
We humans are a pretty impressed with ourselves....lol. We have a lot of self-importance and a very healthy ego.

We're make the rules, and not surprisingly we think humans are the most important thing on this planet....or in the universe for that matter. Perhaps some day we're realize that we're only one form of life on this planet. Perhaps part of maturity is realizing that we fit into a larger whole. Perhaps realizing that without the "larger whole", we're doomed to a miserable and painful failure in our future. We may be important....but equally so is everything else.

Scientists are always talking about carbon (I think it's carbon anyway) being necessary for life. I've always thought, who says carbon is necessary for life ? Do we really think we're so important and "ground breaking" a creation that we can't imagine that there may be life forms that don't in any way, shape or form resemble us in chemical make up or building blocks of life ? Seriously....

Contrary to what your parents perhaps told you little Johnny/Sally, you're not the most important thing on this planet, the sun doesn't rise and set based on your importance, and learning a little humility and how you fit into the "larger whole" should be your first order of business !

We had our 7 week old grand daughter over for an overnight last night.....to give her parents a well deserved evening/night/morning away from parental duties. She's a delight, but she does cry sometimes. Many times we're not absolutely sure what her "issues" are at the time.....because she cannot always communicate (certainly not verbally) what discomfort she is feeling. We are forced to make assumptions many times, as all parents of non-speaking infants do. We cannot possible know what someone/something else is feeling if they cannot communicate that to us. Assuming we always know what someone/something else is feeling when they are not able to communicate their experience to us seems kind of arrogant doesn't it ?

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Old 05-08-2016, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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It is hardly an exaggeration to say that the tip of the radicle thus endowed, and having the power of directing the movements of the adjoining parts, acts like the brain of one of the lower animals; the brain being seated within the anterior end of the body, receiving impressions from the sense organs, and directing the several movements.


It is hardly surprising to find genes in plants that are related to animal genes involved in the nervous system. Indeed, confirmation of this fact was one of the first really interesting results of the various genome projects. The reason why it isn’t surprising is that all life on the planet is united through common ancestry.




Do Plants Have Brains? | Natural History Magazine


If your having trouble eating plants & meat like we're supposed to then go eat McDonalds it's all fake food there. You might not live very long & you'll time from stomach but hey at least you can sleep at night!
When your not throwing up.
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