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I see people saying they give their seat up to pregnant women, but you can't always tell if a woman is pregnant. Most miscarriages happen during the first trimester, before the big belly develops.
A few years ago Japan started passing out special stickers and tags that pregnant women can wear, so that people will know if they're pregnant. This is a great idea for those 1st trimester pregnancies. But most people don't know what they symbol means, so it's not that much help.
Unless a woman fellow passenger is elderly, pregnant, or accompanied by a small child, I wouldn't expect a man to give up his seat to a woman. Any man or young woman who didn't offer his/her seat to any of the above is an ass.
No, not able bodied women. I taught my sons to give up a seat for an elderly person, a person with a disability, a pregnant mother or a mother with small children.
A friend of mine here at work were, not 15 minutes ago, talking about this...
If a man opens a door for a woman, some women think that it's the 'war on women' as they're not able to open their own door and we're superior to them... (hogwash!)
If a man has manners and knows that shivery is not dead, he's participating in the war on women.
If a man DOESN'T have manners, some complain that shivery IS dead... WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK KILLED IT?
It is patronizing and sexist, the men that do this are usually the "dirty old man" types. It is a relic of a different era. I have seen it happen a few times and I always felt so bad for the woman that was being publicly demeaned and humiliated. The whole concept is based on a belief that women are less capable and less than equal and that their place is at home in the kitchen.
It is truly a shame that you feel this way. The act of being polite and/or helpful is never meant to demean or humiliate. Perhaps your opinion is because of your upbringing or views on current social events, but you couldn't be more wrong.
I suppose, at the ripe old age of 34, I am a "dirty old man" type because I hold a door open. So be it. I was raised to be polite and have good manners. Being polite isn't an attempt to get in your pants or herd you to the kitchen to wear out a sandwich board. This is some of that new feminist garbage being taught to anyone who will listen. Apparently, you lapped it all up.
I'll continue to hold doors and be polite. You continue to be bitter and spiteful.
As for the original question, I'll offer a seat to anyone who looks like they could use it more than I can (and hope I can take her home and wild circus sex with her).
In earlier times, men riding on crowded buses, trains, etc. were expected to give up their seats to ladies. A man who was seated while ladies were standing would be considered ill-mannered and not a proper gentlemen. And I would imagine that a woman who refused the offer would be considered brash and not a proper lady.
But social norms change, and certainly gender roles in the U.S. have undergone significant changes in recent times. So now we have the situation where some men will remain seated, unashamed, while the women standing over them glower at them in sullen annoyance. Meanwhile, elsewhere on the vehicle, a man will rise to offer his seat, only to find that the woman standing nearby refuses to take it.
So what do you feel is the proper etiquette? I'm not talking about offering seats to the elderly, or handicapped, or pregnant women, or someone burdened with packages. What I'm asking is, should an able-bodied, unencumbered man offer his seat to an able-bodied, unencumbered woman? And if so, should she take it?
No. A healthy young woman can stand and in some cases can use the "exercise".....yes, standing is a "weight bearing" exercise as in gravity v mass.
Since when did men become second class to women, that a tired hard working man has to jump up and give up his comfort for a "woman," NEGATORY. Stand its good for your legs.
It is truly a shame that you feel this way. The act of being polite and/or helpful is never meant to demean or humiliate. Perhaps your opinion is because of your upbringing or views on current social events, but you couldn't be more wrong.
I suppose, at the ripe old age of 34, I am a "dirty old man" type because I hold a door open. So be it. I was raised to be polite and have good manners. Being polite isn't an attempt to get in your pants or herd you to the kitchen to wear out a sandwich board. This is some of that new feminist garbage being taught to anyone who will listen. Apparently, you lapped it all up.
I'll continue to hold doors and be polite. You continue to be bitter and spiteful.
Take it from someone from the generation just before yours: there will always be people who are looking for reasons to be offended, or to feel demeaned. They will always find those, because they seek very diligently. I experienced this as early as the 1980s. The struggle of maintaining good manners is in part the struggle to continue to maintain them in spite of insecure churls for whom every casual interaction is a skirmish in a greater war.
It depends... if they seem more than capable of being able to stand then I'll remain seated, and allow for someone else to offer up their seat if they choose.
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