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Old 05-01-2015, 08:30 PM
 
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In earlier times, men riding on crowded buses, trains, etc. were expected to give up their seats to ladies. A man who was seated while ladies were standing would be considered ill-mannered and not a proper gentlemen. And I would imagine that a woman who refused the offer would be considered brash and not a proper lady.

But social norms change, and certainly gender roles in the U.S. have undergone significant changes in recent times. So now we have the situation where some men will remain seated, unashamed, while the women standing over them glower at them in sullen annoyance. Meanwhile, elsewhere on the vehicle, a man will rise to offer his seat, only to find that the woman standing nearby refuses to take it.

So what do you feel is the proper etiquette? I'm not talking about offering seats to the elderly, or handicapped, or pregnant women, or someone burdened with packages. What I'm asking is, should an able-bodied, unencumbered man offer his seat to an able-bodied, unencumbered woman? And if so, should she take it?
The answer is NO! Women want to equality! This is equality!
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Old 05-02-2015, 01:47 AM
 
Location: California
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I never expected it but it would have been nice when I was 8 months pregnant. Whatever though.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:42 AM
 
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...I offer my seat to older women or women with small children. Younger women find that patronizing. If I even address a woman as "ma'am" (like I was raised to) they are offended.

People who find manners "patronizing" are essentially saying they are not amenable to being treated with respect... which is really a contradiction.
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Old 05-02-2015, 08:03 PM
 
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I would only give up my seat to someone who was having a hard time standing due to a disability that wasn't their choice. I wouldn't give up my seat to someone who is pregnant or obese because those are their own choices.
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Old 05-02-2015, 08:05 PM
 
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No, of course not. There's no reason to. Having a vagina in no way whatsoever entitles a person to a seat nor impairs their ability to stand. I will however offer my seat to someone who is obviously physically having difficulties, or to the elderly. That is having manners. Manners extend to everyone and do not vary by sex. Chivalry, a sexist custom, is nearly dead. This is a good thing. It needs to be buried six feet under to exist only in history books.
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Old 05-02-2015, 08:42 PM
 
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this question has never applied to me, i have never been on a bus or train before
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Old 05-03-2015, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Eastwatch by the sea
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No, I would not give up my seat to an able bodied woman or otherwise. In fact, she should drop to all fours and offer her back as my foot rest!
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Old 05-04-2015, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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I am so confused by modern social rules that i prefer to stand in crowded buses to begin with.

I am thinking with in modern terms. If she is a lady you give up your seat...
I do exactly the same...
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:07 AM
 
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I don't think it's a big deal, just a nice thing to do. I give up seats for older people regardless of sex...it's just a gesture of kindness, do it or don't.
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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I'm a woman and I've offered my seat to a prego and/or elderly person.
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