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Old 01-31-2016, 01:32 PM
 
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Why hasn't the United States invaded Pakistanis?

Need to add "yet" to the end of the sentence. Just give us a little time.

 
Old 01-31-2016, 01:37 PM
 
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I can think of no other country that has done so much damage through Jihadism as Pakistan has. They are at war on their borders with Afghanistan, India and China - they are a major backing force to the Xinjiang conflict, as they are to Jihadism around the world.

Not only this, but this country holds Nukes and is in close contact with countries that can't be trusted, like Russia or North Korea.

It seems like the US is trying to stop a leak from flooding the house by bailing out water but leaving the leak untouched.
There are a dozen reasons why we haven't invaded Pakistan, but primarily it is because it isn't in our national interests to do so.

(And, actually, we have. Although we made the SEAL Team members temporary OGA employees, their little midnight visit to Abottabad to grab Osama bin Laden was actually an invasion of foreign soil - Pakistan's.)

Pakistan is about 90% Muslim, in a border dispute with India over the Kashmir and has two relatively large areas of ungoverned spaces - called the Waziristans - in between it and Afghanistan. It has two or three major domestic terrorist groups and a couple dozen smaller, more tribal terrorist groups. ISIS is currently recruiting heavily in Pakistan and would like to take over their government. In short, there is nothing attractive about Pakistan that would make the US want to become responsible for it or its people. (And we certainly don't want their real estate.)

Oil is no longer a strategic issue for the US - more has been found in the US in the last two years than Saudi Arabia has. It is a strategic issue for some of our European allies.

I believe we do have a mutual defense agreement with Pakistan that has to do with safeguarding their nuclear assets should they come under threat. We have also trained many of their military officers and from time to time, our intelligence agencies have cooperated with theirs. In short, Pakistan is more of an ally than an enemy, and they certainly aren't a threat to us. So why the heck would we invade them?

You are completely correct that some Pakistanis have been contributors to the Jihadism flooding the region, but if you study this activity carefully, you see that the government of Pakistan (GoP) is usually the target of the Jihadis. During December and January alone, there were about a half dozen attacks by Jihadis against Pakistan's government facilities and civilians. In started on December 29th in a place called Marden and the latest was last Friday in Baluchistan - Pakistan's southeastern province. I believe more Pakistani soldiers, police and security officials have died fighting jihadism in their country than Americans have died from Jihadism in ours.

So yes, Pakistan has some issues - some of which are very serious. But it is not in the US' national interest to invade that nation.
 
Old 01-31-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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They told Pakistan early on `If you do not work with us after 9/11 then we will blow you into the stone age ``......... So they worked with the west some what and even more off and on for what they could get away with against the terrorist from the wild counties inside Pakistan
 
Old 01-31-2016, 02:11 PM
 
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There are a dozen reasons why we haven't invaded Pakistan, but primarily it is because it isn't in our national interests to do so.

(And, actually, we have. Although we made the SEAL Team members temporary OGA employees, their little midnight visit to Abottabad to grab Osama bin Laden was actually an invasion of foreign soil - Pakistan's.)

Pakistan is about 90% Muslim, in a border dispute with India over the Kashmir and has two relatively large areas of ungoverned spaces - called the Waziristans - in between it and Afghanistan. It has two or three major domestic terrorist groups and a couple dozen smaller, more tribal terrorist groups. ISIS is currently recruiting heavily in Pakistan and would like to take over their government. In short, there is nothing attractive about Pakistan that would make the US want to become responsible for it or its people. (And we certainly don't want their real estate.)

Oil is no longer a strategic issue for the US - more has been found in the US in the last two years than Saudi Arabia has. It is a strategic issue for some of our European allies.

I believe we do have a mutual defense agreement with Pakistan that has to do with safeguarding their nuclear assets should they come under threat. We have also trained many of their military officers and from time to time, our intelligence agencies have cooperated with theirs. In short, Pakistan is more of an ally than an enemy, and they certainly aren't a threat to us. So why the heck would we invade them?

You are completely correct that some Pakistanis have been contributors to the Jihadism flooding the region, but if you study this activity carefully, you see that the government of Pakistan (GoP) is usually the target of the Jihadis. During December and January alone, there were about a half dozen attacks by Jihadis against Pakistan's government facilities and civilians. In started on December 29th in a place called Marden and the latest was last Friday in Baluchistan - Pakistan's southeastern province. I believe more Pakistani soldiers, police and security officials have died fighting jihadism in their country than Americans have died from Jihadism in ours.

So yes, Pakistan has some issues - some of which are very serious. But it is not in the US' national interest to invade that nation.
Very well put repped
 
Old 01-31-2016, 05:06 PM
 
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"Why hasn't the United States invaded Pakistanis?"

I can understand--to at least some small extent--the OP's desire to invade Pakistan, even though that leaves the inevitable question of how another country might occupy and, more importantly, pacifiy the citizenry of a country like Pakistan.
However, I have never had the desire to "invade Pakistanis".

Does the OP comprehend the overtly sexual nature of his/her question?
And...if not...all I can say is...

Is the OP attempting to tell us something about his deep-seated sexual desires?

 
Old 01-31-2016, 06:06 PM
 
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The USA should invade itself because we are much worse. We were the reason the Mujihadeen were successful. We just used Pakistan because they were close. We should have either just let the Soviet Union take Afghanistan, or invaded ourselves instead of bringing in extremists, or just stay out all together.
 
Old 01-31-2016, 06:08 PM
 
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You are completely correct that some Pakistanis have been contributors to the Jihadism flooding the region, but if you study this activity carefully, you see that the government of Pakistan (GoP) is usually the target of the Jihadis. During December and January alone, there were about a half dozen attacks by Jihadis against Pakistan's government facilities and civilians. In started on December 29th in a place called Marden and the latest was last Friday in Baluchistan - Pakistan's southeastern province. I believe more Pakistani soldiers, police and security officials have died fighting jihadism in their country than Americans have died from Jihadism in ours.
Well they along with USA helped create the jihadism in the region to begin with. I say it is still mostly USA but Pakistan went along.
 
Old 01-31-2016, 06:29 PM
 
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Why hasn't the United States invaded Pakistanis?

Need to add "yet" to the end of the sentence. Just give us a little time.
Pakistan enjoys sticking it to us and then begging for aid. The Unites States is finally realizing they cannot avoid that unpleasant reality anymore. Not an unbelievable scenario.
 
Old 01-31-2016, 07:44 PM
 
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Yeah, they got nukes.....maybe that has something to do with us leaving them alone????
 
Old 01-31-2016, 08:38 PM
 
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Maybe because going to war causes more problems than it solves.
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