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Old 03-11-2016, 02:48 PM
 
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It actually isn't a myth. This is an empirical question that has been tested numerous times. In 1994, 52 leading university professors in relevant fields signed a statement called "Mainstream Science on Intelligence," and several of the points in the statement were directly about this issue, such as the following:

The bell curve for whites is centered roughly around IQ 100; the bell curve for American blacks roughly around 85; and those for different subgroups of Hispanics roughly midway between those for whites and blacks. The evidence is less definitive for exactly where above IQ 100 the bell curves for Jews and Asians are centered

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainst...n_Intelligence

That doesn't imply that every corner of the globe doesn't have people perfectly capable of understanding complex human thought. It is a statement about averages as the population level. Anglo-Saxon whites are not above all other humans, either -- that is not a claim I made.

IQ is a biological feature that is primarily hereditary in nature. There are all sorts of other biological features that vary based on race, and it would be strange if there was zero IQ variation between races.
Ok. Believe your bias.

Look at the sample space for the subjects at study. I know better. What genetic trait would you attribute to the better IQ test taking skills by those you consider white? I am sure that those you consider white are NOT tested for a specific human genome but by your visual perception of what white is.......

What is white? Tell me the specific human genome branch that defines white and then tell me why that gives a superior IQ test taking skill? By how much?

It is purely environment and privilege. Don't believe me? Start looking at the similarities of the human genome rather than the infinitesimally small differences.

 
Old 03-11-2016, 02:54 PM
 
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They're just smarter is the elephant in the room.
Trump supporters are predominately wear-it-on-my-sleeve white. Define White people. The concept of race is archaic and silly.
 
Old 03-11-2016, 03:18 PM
 
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Trump supporters are predominately wear-it-on-my-sleeve white. Define White people. The concept of race is archaic and silly.

Webster defines it quite easily and pointedly. Where are you getting your definitions from?
 
Old 03-11-2016, 03:19 PM
 
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Webster defines it quite easily and pointedly. Where are you getting your definitions from?
Enlighten me with Websters definition. I get this below

Enter White Race:

"The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above."
 
Old 03-11-2016, 03:35 PM
 
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Enlighten me with Websters definition. I get this below

Enter White Race:

"The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above."

So you tried to look up a separate adjective and noun as one identity in the dictionary




Again, the elephant in the room is they're just smarter.
 
Old 03-11-2016, 04:48 PM
 
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Why has European - Western civilization been so successful?

- -Magic dirt.

Why did it take them so long to pass the Chinese and the Arab civilizations?

- -It took 'em a while to discover and dig it up.

What about North America, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa (to a degree)?

- -Well a few of the enterprising colonists brought some of the magic dirt with them and planted it in the New World.

Why hasn't Latin America been more successful?

- -Either they forgot or didn't plant enough European magic dirt.

Why are so many fleeing catastrophe, violence and war in western Asia and Africa and trying to get asylum in Europe?

- -That's where the magic dirt is.

If you don't like the magic dirt hypothesis, check out Jared Diamond's Guns germs and steel
 
Old 03-11-2016, 04:56 PM
 
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Very simply put.

The white man has been successful the past several centuries because Europe and England colonized the rest of the world.

Prior to that it was the Romans.
 
Old 03-11-2016, 05:52 PM
 
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This is a touchy topic. I am not white so don't blame me for not knowing about exactly which demography among whites achieved what it did in arts/science/infrastructure etc. For me its just the white civilization that created cities like Sydney and Toronto and NYC..
The answer is simple really. Urbanization. Cities naturally expand as capitals of government and business and trade crossroads. Thus they allow for the concentration of wealth and power. Cities are hubs that cause the creation of wealth classes. And cities are incentivized to do things that make them MORE attractive as a place to live and do business. Cities are incentivized to make their mark in the world as glorious symbols of national pride. And this desire to shine includes things like culture, art, innovation, and all the trappings of luxury and leisure. Thus, cities will attract persons who supply those elevating things. So.... cities allow for the growth and development of an intellectual class that can be freed up from subsistence living in order to pursue loftier goals.

On the down side, cities also attract laborers looking for employment from someone else. If urban growth is not properly managed... and jobs are not created that keep pace with population growth... you end up with a large unemployed underclass that is trapped and ghettoized in circumstances that grow increasingly desperate. And those situations inevitably lead to a net drain on city resources, and you end up with a city that looks like what big cities typically look like all throughout history: Opulent splendor and culture in a city center encircled by vast slums and run down areas.

Europe stands out because Europe had a singular vision unmatched in all of previous history to colonize the world, fueled by intense nationalistic competition between the major Euro monarchies, and the abuse of religion to justify taking whole continents captive in the name of "civilizing them". Immense sums of wealth and resources were extracted from across the globe by the kings and queens of the post-Roman millineum. This wealth fueled the ever-growing cycle of militarism and science/technology wars, which in turn generated even more wealth... and so on.

I think really, Europe's expansionism was really about the egos of monarchs wanting to keep up with one another and to grab the cash and the land before some other kingdom did. And the religion was used to justify it as "bringing civilization to the savages". And really, it was all funded by both taxation and plundered wealth. It was an enterprise of government that operated according to aristocratic assumptions about "divine right" and all that stuff.

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Old 03-11-2016, 06:16 PM
 
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Ok. Believe your bias.

Look at the sample space for the subjects at study. I know better. What genetic trait would you attribute to the better IQ test taking skills by those you consider white? I am sure that those you consider white are NOT tested for a specific human genome but by your visual perception of what white is.......

What is white? Tell me the specific human genome branch that defines white and then tell me why that gives a superior IQ test taking skill? By how much?

It is purely environment and privilege. Don't believe me? Start looking at the similarities of the human genome rather than the infinitesimally small differences.
WHAT is purely environment and "privilege"? IQ?

Do you understand what an IQ test is?

You obviously don't understand evolution. So...maybe you should embrace creationism.
 
Old 03-11-2016, 06:17 PM
 
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Webster defines it quite easily and pointedly. Where are you getting your definitions from?

From assorted Left Winger purveyors of identity politics and Critical Theory and assorted other Marxian worldviews.
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