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Old 11-10-2016, 06:45 PM
 
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That 18 to 20% is based on check total.

There are servers that work just as hard in fast casual as fine dining, it just a different overall experience. A 20% tip on a $40 tab, I'm sure is as appreciated as a 20% on a $400 tab, it's just more money for a server at a higher level, in a higher level restaurant.

How about this, if you can't afford to tip, maybe you shouldn't be eating at a places that have waitstaff.
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:33 PM
 
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Does the check total include tax? Why should one tip on tax?

How about this, if you want to tell others what to tip or whether to eat out, maybe you should lobby for a law. Until there is one, people have the right to do as they please and it's none of your business.
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Old 11-11-2016, 02:53 AM
 
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That 18 to 20% is based on check total.

There are servers that work just as hard in fast casual as fine dining, it just a different overall experience. A 20% tip on a $40 tab, I'm sure is as appreciated as a 20% on a $400 tab, it's just more money for a server at a higher level, in a higher level restaurant.

How about this, if you can't afford to tip, maybe you shouldn't be eating at a places that have waitstaff.
Or take it to go and just pick it up at the counter? We do that quite a bit now when we do eat "out".
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Old 11-11-2016, 05:25 AM
 
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How about this, if you can't afford to tip, maybe you shouldn't be eating at a places that have waitstaff.
There is no shortage of places where tipping is not expected. No one there will be surprised or stiffed if you fail to leave one. From what we've been told here, the food is really good at these places too. It makes you wonder why those who are opposed to servers and tips would ever eat anywhere else.
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Old 11-11-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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Does the check total include tax? Why should one tip on tax?

How about this, if you want to tell others what to tip or whether to eat out, maybe you should lobby for a law. Until there is one, people have the right to do as they please and it's none of your business.


By eating in a sit-down restaurant in the US, you are entering a social contract that is well-established. Tipping is not new, not an underground practice.
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Old 11-12-2016, 12:49 AM
 
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Old 11-12-2016, 11:53 AM
 
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Yeah, I think I gotta agree with the overall gist of the past few pages (keeping in mind, I'm set to 30 posts per page, not just 10 ).....


If it's a 3 to 5-star restaurant, then perhaps servers have their place.


If it's a place like Denny's, IHOP, Apple Bees, or some roadside diner... then some patrons would rather save the 20% surcharge and just go elsewhere. Do these places even get a star?


Comments about keeping the walkways clear is a preference thing. Counter service eateries have gotten by just fine without servers, and people walking up to get their food.


"If you can't pay tip, then you shouldn't eat out"... well, because tips aren't mandatory, for better or for worse, folks are free to skip it. Me... I have choices, I can usually find a non-tipping restaurant, so I'll just do that. Seems to be no loss, as they should for the most part have enough other patrons.
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Old 11-12-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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Does the check total include tax? Why should one tip on tax?

How about this, if you want to tell others what to tip or whether to eat out, maybe you should lobby for a law. Until there is one, people have the right to do as they please and it's none of your business.
No....unless someone lives under a rock they'd know you're not expected to tip on the tax, but if you're talking about a paltry 15-20% on the 5% tax then it is negligible anyway.
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Old 11-12-2016, 12:27 PM
 
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While no rule here will apply to everyone, most people do seem to tip on the basis of the bottom line. Depending on location, there may be multiple layers of tax added to the bill, but the whole thing is a ballpark exercise in any case. If pocket change actually made a difference, it might have been better to stay at home and nuke a Swanson's Hungry-Man platter in the first place.
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Old 11-12-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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No....unless someone lives under a rock they'd know you're not expected to tip on the tax, but if you're talking about a paltry 15-20% on the 5% tax then it is negligible anyway.
I'll have to check to be sure but I'm pretty sure the receipts and payment terminals that "help you out" by showing amounts for typical tip percentages are basing it on the entire total. Around here, food tax is 9%. No, the difference isn't major but it's one more thing leading to "tip inflation".
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