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Old 04-07-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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There are plenty of others racists crimes by other races but when we hear the words hate crime it is always a white hate crime. The media reports it that way. What about blacks crimes against whites. The media doesn't even call them hate crimes.
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Old 04-07-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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that is the "phrase that pays".
Hate Crime gets clicks.
concerning the racial aspect:
dog bites man does not sell.
man bites dog does.
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Old 04-07-2019, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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According to Wikipedia, hate crimes are defined thusly:

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A hate crime (also known as a bias-motivated crime or bias crime) is a prejudice-motivated crime which occurs when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her membership (or perceived membership) in a certain social group or race.

Examples of such groups can include, and are almost exclusively limited to: sex, ethnicity, disability, language, nationality, physical appearance, religion, gender identity or sexual orientation. Non-criminal actions that are motivated by these reasons are often called "bias incidents".

"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts which are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the social groups listed above, or by bias against their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, mate crime or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).
So it would seem that the definition of the phrase, when taken as a whole, is non-discriminatory. In practice, the observation made in the OP is telling, to say the least.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Fake news.

https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/h...ime-statistics
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
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It's not "fake news". It may be misleading but it's not fake. Fake would be stating that whites commit all hate crimes and blacks don't commit any. Just like white women are disproportionately covered when they go "missing" compared to other groups but nobody is saying that nobody but white women go missing.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:13 PM
 
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Hate crime is a legal term. It is used when anyone commits the crimes that meet the legal requirements.

No, white people are not the great oppressed.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:29 PM
 
Location: South Australia
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Hate crime is a legal term. It is used when anyone commits the crimes that meet the legal requirements.

No, white people are not the great oppressed.
Also a common opinion of many males about Feminism, and in Oz, from hard -done-by non custodial [males] after a divorce.

We live in traditionally patriarchal societies. The dominance and privilege of males is still entrenched at a visceral level. To such an extent that many/most are not consciously aware

In my opinion, we are still at least a century away from feminism being simply accepted at the same cultural level.

I think the goes for the still massive problem of race for the US

---I won't even dare start on guns


Here's a thought; how many members in the NRA? 2--3 million? Have a campaign for people ho want to change gun laws to join the NRA, and take it over by sheer force of numbers? I guess I will see little piggies flying around my kitchen before THAT happens
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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It's not "fake news". It may be misleading but it's not fake. Fake would be stating that whites commit all hate crimes and blacks don't commit any. Just like white women are disproportionately covered when they go "missing" compared to other groups but nobody is saying that nobody but white women go missing.
The OP said "always" . Regardless of the topic, use of the word "always" raises my suspicions. I am particularly dubious when people use imperatives to stir things up and fan flames.

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Old 04-07-2019, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
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The OP said "always" . Regardless of the topic, use of the word "always" raises my suspicions.
The media mostly covers hate crimes committed by whites, in far greater proportion to the amount of hate crimes they actually commit. This is not "fake news", just misleading in this case.
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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The media mostly covers hate crimes committed by whites, in far greater proportion to the amount of hate crimes they actually commit. This is not "fake news", just misleading in this case.
Ok. "Far more" =/= "always"
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