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Old 05-11-2019, 06:37 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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I find the underlying premise behind your theory completely misguided, in that you seem to believe gay men dislike women. I don’t think that is true in the slightest. They just aren’t sexually attracted to women but don’t have anything against women as people. All their hero worship is around women, Judy Garland, Bette Midler, Barbra Streisand, Madonna, Lady GaGa, etc. I worked with many gay men in a casino showroom our show was La Cage) and to me gay men adore women. Why would you think males displaying hatred of women or mysoginistic attitudes would equate to their being gay?
The premise is also based on a lot of assumptions. Some porn is women abusing men... a lot of porn isn't about being rough women either.

For starters, men who visit high end escorts are well known to pamper and practically worship some of the escorts they frequent. Its like if you go to spend an hour with a celebrity you adore... you wouldn't be abusive to them. If you look at many independents, they even list gifts and things they like.... because so many of their customers want to buy them something.

Reminds me of a lot of stereotypes and generalizations made against the sex worker community and kink community. Statements like men who like petite small breasted women are deep down pedophiles. It is a short sighted view from a personal view that is identifies someone else/thing as out of the norm. Then they make uninformed associations to explain. If it is not something that agrees with them... negative connections/associations are made.

In one of these prostitution threads, I mentioned that my theory is that even uninformed people watch movies and media; they are biased to paint sex workers in bad light. As such, it influences their thoughts/views. The same can be said about porn.... It isn't really a good teacher about sex... It also isn't a good source of information to learn about men. Certainly not a good source of information to learn about women.

Most gay men I know have a lot of female friends; it takes the sexual pressures out of the equation and allows a male perspective from intimate conversations. So why would gay men even closet gays hate women?


I am a straight male with mostly female friends... some going back more than 20+ years. I have a few close male friends a well. I think the key mistake people make in trying to understand is that they refuse to embrace and accept that men and women are truly different. They try to explain behaviors from their own gender bias specific views rather than just simply ask and talk about it. Due to my relationships with my female friends, we are able to have some real interesting and intimate conversations; a female with a male. I can ask anything I want about women.... I do. They can ask anything they want about men.. they do.


Now I will admit that there is an abusive side.. negative side.... to porn and sex work. I've seen it first hand. To make inferences about that and generalize it across an entire population is simply wrong.
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Old 05-11-2019, 11:34 PM
 
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Yeah, legalize all vices and bad judgements of humanity

How about just living a healthy and honest lifestyle, which benefits one and all? If we did that, we wouldn't even need to entertain how to handle sleazy lifestyles. The problem and question goes away.
I'd like to know which state of Utopia you reside.

Quite frankly healthy life and honest lifestyles are predicated on the information, goods and services supplied to the masses.

Most information unfolds as misleading, fallacy, and perplexing. Simply a challenge to live completely honest or healthy.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:37 AM
 
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I'd like to know which state of Utopia you reside.

Quite frankly healthy life and honest lifestyles are predicated on the information, goods and services supplied to the masses.

Most information unfolds as misleading, fallacy, and perplexing. Simply a challenge to live completely honest or healthy.
I’m pretty sure that guy with Cerebral Palsy who wrote the article lived as healthy and honest life as he was able, he was just lonely for human touch and had no way to fulfill what are natural biological needs outside of sex workers. I don’t see one thing sleazy about it at all.
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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There is a service where some folks provide sexual encounters to those who are disabled or have trouble physically with sex. I forget what they're called but I kind of see that as more of a medical thing. Like with marijuana I have no problem with medicinal use. I don't think it should be criminalized if that's the case. .
That's okay but if it's called a "medical need" that's a problem because I don't think health insurance should cover it. But otherwise, if they have the money and can pay on their own, fine. Not my business.
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Old 05-13-2019, 08:13 PM
 
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That's okay but if it's called a "medical need" that's a problem because I don't think health insurance should cover it. But otherwise, if they have the money and can pay on their own, fine. Not my business.
I don’t see why it would be a medical thing just because someone is disabled. Its not a medical need. Disabled people are the same as anyone else who pays, they are lonely and/or have a desire for sex and physical contact with another human being. I think it’s actually insulting to disabled people for the poster to imply their needs and desires are somehow different than everyone else’s. Disabled people pay for their own sex workers like everyone else.
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Old 06-01-2019, 02:39 AM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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Nope. Don't agree with it. And my mind won't sway. They need to crack down more on prostitutes praying on desperate, pathetic men to take ¾ their paycheck. Makes me sick to even think about it. I was always flagging them on CL as the spammed the casual encounters section, clearly violating the TOS. Vaginas aren't a rare commodity in the slightest to be sullying the pure joy of consenting sex between two adults, a natural act should'nt be paid for. It'd be like paying to breathe. Mind won't sway. Those harlettes need to find a real job that isn't something of a professional sucubi. Both.parties are simply scum to me. If I wanted to get laid and couldn't, I had the self-control to abstain until I could get it proper, nomatter how mad I got, I knew when it did happen, it'd happen as nature intended and not some business transaction where I leave payment on the preverbial night stand. Romance never being a true ally of mine, nomatter how low I got, I'd never be some dredge throwing hard earned money at some jive-ass woman of the night. If men would think with their actual brain and gain some self-control amd stop enabling these women, maybe, just maybe the numbers would dwindle. True coitus exist out there and it can be obtained, there is no need to pay for it. There are thousands just about like her, and of those thousands, at least a few could be had properly. My mind will not sway on this.
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Old 06-01-2019, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Nope. Don't agree with it. And my mind won't sway. They need to crack down more on prostitutes praying on desperate, pathetic men to take ¾ their paycheck. Makes me sick to even think about it. I was always flagging them on CL as the spammed the casual encounters section, clearly violating the TOS. Vaginas aren't a rare commodity in the slightest to be sullying the pure joy of consenting sex between two adults, a natural act should'nt be paid for. It'd be like paying to breathe. Mind won't sway. Those harlettes need to find a real job that isn't something of a professional sucubi. Both.parties are simply scum to me. If I wanted to get laid and couldn't, I had the self-control to abstain until I could get it proper, nomatter how mad I got, I knew when it did happen, it'd happen as nature intended and not some business transaction where I leave payment on the preverbial night stand. Romance never being a true ally of mine, nomatter how low I got, I'd never be some dredge throwing hard earned money at some jive-ass woman of the night. If men would think with their actual brain and gain some self-control amd stop enabling these women, maybe, just maybe the numbers would dwindle. True coitus exist out there and it can be obtained, there is no need to pay for it. There are thousands just about like her, and of those thousands, at least a few could be had properly. My mind will not sway on this.
Preying on desperate men hahaha I hope your joking... is it not the other way round....................Im not in favour of prostitution I think its horrid and tacky.. I dont think however its easy money.. its a dangerous profession in many ways.. but cant say its what some have to do for a living.. not in this country anyway...
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Old 06-02-2019, 09:35 PM
 
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Nope. Don't agree with it. And my mind won't sway. They need to crack down more on prostitutes praying on desperate, pathetic men to take ¾ their paycheck. Makes me sick to even think about it. I was always flagging them on CL as the spammed the casual encounters section, clearly violating the TOS. Vaginas aren't a rare commodity in the slightest to be sullying the pure joy of consenting sex between two adults, a natural act should'nt be paid for. It'd be like paying to breathe. Mind won't sway. Those harlettes need to find a real job that isn't something of a professional sucubi. Both.parties are simply scum to me. If I wanted to get laid and couldn't, I had the self-control to abstain until I could get it proper, nomatter how mad I got, I knew when it did happen, it'd happen as nature intended and not some business transaction where I leave payment on the preverbial night stand. Romance never being a true ally of mine, nomatter how low I got, I'd never be some dredge throwing hard earned money at some jive-ass woman of the night. If men would think with their actual brain and gain some self-control amd stop enabling these women, maybe, just maybe the numbers would dwindle. True coitus exist out there and it can be obtained, there is no need to pay for it. There are thousands just about like her, and of those thousands, at least a few could be had properly. My mind will not sway on this.
Its simple supply and demand, sex will always be in high demand, its also a vice that attracts men (and women) from all walks of life, from the lofty politician down to the garbage truck driver!
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