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You have the wrong idea about this issue. Some of these girls aren’t runaways. They’re kidnapped, repeatedly raped to break their spirit, and then forced into prostitution and or sold as a slave. Decriminalizing prostitution can help but it will not open the door for these girls to seek help. They’re more scared of their owner than the police because their owner will get arrested and then bailed out and guess who he’s going to be looking at to get revenge. Unless a program is set up to get the girls away from their owners they won’t be safe. Sadly not all of the owners are men. Some are women who are just as vicious or worse than their male counterparts. For some of their customers it’s about the power more than the sex. Some customers don’t even know the girl is being forced into this line of work against their will. Though parts of Nevada and Europe have legal brothels that hasn’t stopped the sex slave industry from thriving.
Sex trafficking is a form of modern slavery that thrives largely because its victims are dismissed as society’s castaways—hookers, addicts, the homeless—and because its signature act, prostitution, is often shrugged off as a victimless crime.
To me, one major reason it largely thrives is because of lot of girls, even in the face of modern feminism, are still not brought up with the ideas that it's essential to stay in school, it's essential to get a real job, and it's essential not to plan to coast on your looks. It seems to me that those three problems make girls easy prey.
Well, you are half right in that it is people.
But it doesn't thrive because the victims can be dismissed but rather, because there is a desire there that propels a criminal market where money can be made. That's the way any crime works. If someone figures out a way to make money off of a desire, then a market can exist.
The way to get rid of almost any crime, at least the money making ones, is to destabilize the market that propels it.
Sex trafficking is a form of modern slavery that thrives largely because its victims are dismissed as society’s castaways—hookers, addicts, the homeless—and because its signature act, prostitution, is often shrugged off as a victimless crime.
To me, one major reason it largely thrives is because of lot of girls, even in the face of modern feminism, are still not brought up with the ideas that it's essential to stay in school, it's essential to get a real job, and it's essential not to plan to coast on your looks. It seems to me that those three problems make girls easy prey.
You are confusing sex trafficking with prostitution. Sex trafficking refers to selling girls as property agaist their will. So it's not about society's attitudes.
I think you're misinterpreting the rest. Most girls who end up hookers, addicts, homeless had life circumstances that led to that...abuse as children, no families or are estranged by their families, or had addiction in their families. They often have PTSD from early childhood experiences, and other psychological issues. They are often runaways. They aren't living on the streets as a choice because no one told them it was important to stay in school. They are living as societal outcasts because they have no choice. They aren't girls who would have been accountants if only someone had told them their looks would fade. Again we are talking about street walkers, runaways, etc not girls who choose prostitution and work for escort agencies, etc.
When they say they are society's outcasts and that makes it more difficult, they mean they don't have the societal ties other girls do...families who will report them missing, for instance. They take girls who will not be missed because they don't have any real ties. They aren't making a judgement about them in the way that you think.
Sex trafficking is a form of modern slavery that thrives largely because its victims are dismissed as society’s castaways—hookers, addicts, the homeless—and because its signature act, prostitution, is often shrugged off as a victimless crime.
To me, one major reason it largely thrives is because of lot of girls, even in the face of modern feminism, are still not brought up with the ideas that it's essential to stay in school, it's essential to get a real job, and it's essential not to plan to coast on your looks. It seems to me that those three problems make girls easy prey.
It is true. It's also true that society condones prostitution and so long as demand exists, there'll always be sex-trafficking.
And, prostitution, addiction and homelessness are choices that irresponsible people make, so that alone is a reason to dismiss them.
I don't have the time or money to hold the hands of imbeciles and walk them through every second of their pathetic lives, explaining that they shouldn't do this or that or the ramifications and consequences of their actions should they voluntarily choose to do this or that.
And, society doesn't have the money to pay other people to do that for them, either.
However, if I would be dictator, I'd change the law so that sex-traffickers were extradited to the host-State to stand trial. A lot of sex-traffickers import women from China, the Philippines, other Asian States, African States, Central and South American States and others.
They can stand trial in a Chinese court under Chinese law with Chinese rules of criminal procedure and evidence with zero help from US.
A lot of Stats execute for sex-trafficking. If sex-traffickers get extradited and executed, oh well, sucks to them, but they shouldn't have done it in the first place.
Is it an instinctual desire? Or a sense of entitlement over another human being? If couched in terms of "instinct" then I guess society has no choice but to recognize it and provide for it in a way that minimizes the cost or damage to either party?
However, if it is some societally based sense of entitlement then that calls for a different resolution.
Very interesting idea. I wonder what kind of "different resolution" you have in mind? More police raids and imprisonment, increasing the incarnation rates? I know feminist mafia just loves arresting men.
Or perhaps you might consider given men some strong drugs to kill the desire for sex? Any other ideas, perhaps of less dictatorial nature.
On the other hand, there are some, mostly older lonely women who also seek services of male escorts. Granted in much smaller quantities than men. I will Google to see if I can find an estimate. Do you have any suggestions fro how to handle female "Johns" that are exploiting poor men?
I think sex trafficking in the US definitely exists and is a problem. However, since the market for sexual services is criminalized, it is impossible to even estimate the percentage of trafficked sex workers in the total population that are offering sexual services. My sense is that trafficking for sex work is less of a problem than man hating feminists claim. Trafficking is also not limited to sex work. I wonder why there is such a fixation on this. Why not discuss trafficking for agricultural work and or beauty services that are catering to middle class/rich woman. I am yet to hear a feminist outrage over the 24 hour pedicure/manicure parlor.
I think legalization of sex work will go a long way to reduce trafficking. It will free up law enforcement resources to concentrate on the actual trafficking as opposed to persecuting everyone involved in the sexual service market.
Fortunately, I am very happy to see that public opinion is slowly turning on this issue. Maybe US will finally learn that the Stalinist approach of arresting everything that moves is not always effective in altering people's behavior. But here is a description of the NYS prostitution legalization bill:
It thrives because of demand. Demand by perverted men. Until law enforcement start targeting and prosecuting the 'johns', and the pimps/mamasans then trafficking and prostitution will never go away.
My wife and I went to a jazz club a few years back. Sat right next to a 60 year old female attorney from NYC. She got my attention, pointed to her "date" and whispered in my ear, "isn't he gorgeous?"
there's an inexhaustible supply of lonely and horny men who can't get it anywhere else.
This. Right there. That's the entire issue summed up.
Palming it (like I do cuz I'm one of those who can't get any, anywhere....but I won't go *that* far. Going to a hooker is the ultimate nadir of desperation and nothing says 'loser' to ones esteem more than doing that. And I still...for now....have a little bit of dignity left) will only satisfy so much and for only so long before biology takes over.
This. Right there. That's the entire issue summed up.
Palming it (like I do cuz I'm one of those who can't get any, anywhere....but I won't go *that* far. Going to a hooker is the ultimate nadir of desperation and nothing says 'loser' to ones esteem more than doing that. And I still...for now....have a little bit of dignity left) will only satisfy so much and for only so long before biology takes over.
I'd replace the word "loser" with "lonely." My wife and I go to Thailand often. There is always a layover in BKK before we head off to the beaches in the south for vacation. It's always interesting to take a stroll thru the red light districts and observe what goes on. Usually these beer bars are filled with older men drinking beers and having chats with the girls. Often wonder how much sex is really happening. Seems like so many of them are there for the company and not necessarily sex.
But even if sex is involved, who cares? My goodness there are more things to worry about than this issue. I'm still convinced that Americans are REALLY REALLY puritanical and uptight. We are also experts at politicalizing everything. It gets really boring after awhile. If two adults want to exchange money for pleasure and both parties get what they want so what?
Not every man out there is going to find a suitable bride. Not every woman out there is going to be able to find a job that puts food on the plates of her entire family. Boom, prostitution occurs. It's the worlds oldest profession and it ain't going away anytime soon.
My wife and I went to a jazz club a few years back. Sat right next to a 60 year old female attorney from NYC. She got my attention, pointed to her "date" and whispered in my ear, "isn't he gorgeous?"
So it's not just men that partake in this hobby.
I dont think there is any effective way to target the johns, they come from all walks of life, rich and poor, both sides of the tracks, etc. Its not you can look at someone and recognize that they are frequently patronizing a prostitute!
Im glad I dont really even have a sex drive anymore!! Ive been told its because I have low testosterone and possibly because I take Suboxone on a daily basis (opioids can decrease sex drive drastically). Its been YEARS since Ive looked at porn or had sexual urges, although I feel quite content at the same time, its just not something I consider a priority anymore.
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