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Old 08-10-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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Here’s a growing problem that merits consideration. Should hospital patient registration forms include “sex (at birth)” and a separate line for gender choice? The reason why is because not all transsexuals are willing to reveal to the doctor or nurse their sex at birth, only their chosen gender. This is potentially deadly. Though your outward appearance has changed to the opposite sex, your internal organs are still of the sex you were born as.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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Only if it is relevant in said case (many transgender people prefer not to out themselves unless necessary).
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Old 08-10-2019, 02:46 PM
 
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Only if it is relevant in said case (many transgender people prefer not to out themselves unless necessary).
Man comes in with severe abdominal pain. Doesn’t tell doctor he is a woman/female. Turns out HE has ovarian cyst. Woman comes in because she’s unable to urinate. None of the nurses are able to insert the catheter. She forgot to mention she was a post op transsexual. They had to call in a specialist doctor just to insert the catheter and begin treatment. All resulted in time lost that could have resulted in a very dangerous situation. You must tell the hospital staff treating you EVERYTHING that is medically relevant. This is your life they’re trying to save.
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Old 08-10-2019, 03:09 PM
 
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If I recall correctly, there was a case recently of a man who was admitted to the hospital with abdominal pain and cramping. The hospital staff was not informed that he was a ftm transgender until "his" baby was born dead, and then of course the staff was blamed for not checking to make sure that the "man" was not pregnant.
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Old 08-10-2019, 03:20 PM
 
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Well, this is just an extension of the issue where the term "man" for example was synonymous with "male", but some people decided to change such meaning of the word.

While this is the great debate forum, the above is short to the point. A woman calling themselves a man is not a male nor a man, as they are synonymous, and regarded as such by 99% of society, even the dictionary, references, etc, going all the way to the root of the words.
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Old 08-10-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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Here’s a growing problem that merits consideration. Should hospital patient registration forms include “sex (at birth)” and a separate line for gender choice? The reason why is because not all transsexuals are willing to reveal to the doctor or nurse their sex at birth, only their chosen gender. This is potentially deadly. Though your outward appearance has changed to the opposite sex, your internal organs are still of the sex you were born as.
Good question. And there are literally hundreds of such questions/problems that are created when we as a society allow individuals to simply "declare" their legal identity, whether by sex, race, species, whatever. Welcome to Clown World!
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:22 AM
 
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Good question. And there are literally hundreds of such questions/problems that are created when we as a society allow individuals to simply "declare" their legal identity, whether by sex, race, species, whatever. Welcome to Clown World!
Not so . The sky isn’t falling. I work in a hospital. It’s simple. The patient states they are a transgendered person , it goes in their chart. Staff that is taking care of the patient treats them with dignity and respect like everyone else. As a medical professional we deal with many different religions , customs , cultures etc... Everyone has right to privacy , care and only those involved in their care need to know any of their business.
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Old 08-12-2019, 02:24 PM
 
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Good question. And there are literally hundreds of such questions/problems that are created when we as a society allow individuals to simply "declare" their legal identity, whether by sex, race, species, whatever. Welcome to Clown World!
How is this any different than any other medical history question? Usually when you go to the doctor/hospital, there will be questions about your medical history. Those questions include items such as “last menstrual periods” and “current medications” where you would presumably put that you had a LMP (even if it was 10 years ago) and are taking hormones (if you haven’t undergone surgery). These problems are no different than problems people would have if they didn’t disclose other relevant problems like having a pacemaker, artificial limb, organ transplant, stent, implant of any type (which might be the case post-operatively).
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Old 08-12-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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This is the case I mentioned:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/3692201002/

The story states "he was rightly classified as a man in the medical records." Is that so? If your biology is female, is it right to be classified medically as a male? That's crazy thinking to me.
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Old 08-12-2019, 04:13 PM
 
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Not so . The sky isn’t falling. I work in a hospital. It’s simple. The patient states they are a transgendered person , it goes in their chart. Staff that is taking care of the patient treats them with dignity and respect like everyone else. As a medical professional we deal with many different religions , customs , cultures etc... Everyone has right to privacy , care and only those involved in their care need to know any of their business.
You seem to have missed the point. Please reread the OP. It used to be simple, but it isn't now, and I think that's what prompted the OP's question. The example raised was in reference to those patients unwilling to reveal their real sex. Born-male patient checks the "female" box. It goes in their chart. Staff that is taking care of the patient treats them according to that false identification. This creates a problem because the staff is now diagnosing/treating a man, but believe they are diagnosing/treating a woman.
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