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Old 10-13-2019, 11:56 PM
 
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If Americans don't stand up to the corruption very soon, they will not be free much longer, nor would they deserve to be. I seriously doubt the average American cares about their future
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Old 10-14-2019, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Will America decline into a third world country? The question is not will America become a third world country, the question is WHEN will America become a third world country.

The real reason we are becoming a third world nation is the government debt. The lose in confidence from other nations in our reserve currency. Reserve currency is the reason the US can borrow money to keep all the societal programs going. Our debt can never be repaid and other countries know it.

It the dollar loses its reserve currency status then all the programs that make us a first world country slowly go away.
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Old 10-14-2019, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Being American is not enough to win a competitive edge in the market place. China and India can produce goods far more cheaply than the US. Thus China is winning the battle on the economic front, and will continue to do so until it has completely dwarfed the United States economy and they don't need us for anything.
Production of goods is increasingy becoming automated, and any advantage in terms of cheap labour may be wiped out nin future decades.

America will remain a super power, the real question is whther China will remain one country or indeed Russia, which is vast and covers two continents.

In terms of India it split in to different nations after the British left with the creation of Pakistan and Bangladesh, whilst Ceylon became Sri Lanka.
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Old 10-14-2019, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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I think the US will eventually split up into 2 or 3 nations before that point. Our population is getting more and more divided every day.
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:59 AM
 
Location: A blue island in the Piedmont
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I think the US will eventually split up into 2 or 3 nations before that point.
Our population is getting more and more divided every day.
Divided or not... the population is too large today and has been for decades.
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Old 10-14-2019, 08:01 AM
 
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This thread is a Rorschach test, whereupon posters will see the looming cause of the decline of the U.S. as their pet obsessions.

To wit:

Tell me, where did you buy those rose colored glasses ?
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Old 10-14-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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OP, we didn't win the WWI. We were only in it a year and we had allies. Yes, we beat the Japanese in WWII but we had allies in WWII and the Russians took the brunt of the casualties. Who liberated Auschwitz again? Not us.

The British lost/gave up the greatest empire in history. They're not whining about it.

How will we react to losing power which, historical speaking, is inevitable? My view? Not well.
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Old 10-14-2019, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Well the answer is no. It’s pretty simple why.

HDI- name a country in History that has declined enough HDI wise to be reclassified as a third world country. Their isn’t one. Argentina which is the best example stagnated but didn’t actually physically declined. Hence it’s HDI is up. Without a countries infrastructure being nuked to bits it literally impossible for a first world country to enter the third world. Even Libya which declined tremendously just last year saw immense growth and its well on its way to reclaiming its spot as Africa’s most developed country. Things like the education level of a populace, and most importantly the infrastructure takes hundreds of years to actually decline. Even if China takes over as the world power, U.S doesn’t suddenly become classified as third world. Great Britain or France are neither third world countries just because the U.S is more powerful than them now. America has Harvard and the Ivy League which is infrastructure that simply can’t be regulated no matter how bad a president messes things up the social and physical infrastructure won’t allow for a decline even if we hadn’t another Great Depression within 20-30 years U.S would be considered the same country again as a nuclear bomb is honestly thae only thing that can make a country decline into third world and even then you would have to nuke half of the countries area, I don’t even know if their is any country with the capabilities to do that to America or Russia or China.

So how can U.S become the first country to decline into the third world. U.S is so far developed and only getting more advanced year to year that it’s preposterous to even assume that it could decline into the third world. Life expectancy alone would have to drop to low 60 something and their is nothing the government or a company is doing to even let it decline that low.
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Old 10-14-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: North America
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This thread is a Rorschach test, whereupon posters will see the looming cause of the decline of the U.S. as their pet obsessions.

To wit:

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The answer is YES, simply because of diversity !
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Tell me, where did you buy those rose colored glasses ?
Your reply is a non sequitur.

But therein, you prove my point - you're just using this thread to rant about your obsession over diversity. Thanks for going out of your way to show that I was right. Much appreciated!

Note:
It is clear that none of the posters using the term second world have any idea what that means (or meant - the term is obsolete for reasons quite obvious to those who actually understand its meaning).
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Old 10-14-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Historically, we've been a 3rd world country up until the 1940's.

Ever watch a pendulum swing? Don't you see the pendulum swinging in other countries as well?

3rd world entails lots of rich people at the top, lots of poor people at the bottom.

There are already 2nd and 3rd world areas of the U.S., but largely hidden by the media. And we're talking outside the homeless areas.
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