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We should learn a lesson from the dinosaurs. I mean they stood by and watched the climate change and they did nothing to prevent it.
Even if humans account for a small percentage, it's still inevitable and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it. Work with the problem instead of against it; adapt.
Speaking of Ice Ages-- we're still in one, technically speaking. We won't be out of it until all the ice is gone from the poles. We've been cooling for the last 8000 yrs, so we may re-enter deep glaciation without having completely escaped it.
Actually we are in an inter-glacial period, the 5th in the past 400,000 years; as denoted in the graph: https://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/last_400k_yrs.html
Of interesting note, our period between ice ages seems to currently be an extended one.
Should be getting colder soon, as it always has; man's tinkering with the atmosphere may actually be delaying the onset of the next ice age cycle.
Just a theory.
Man's contribution to climate change is a significant one. Temperature increases in the last hundred years are well documented. Only a few outliers seriously dispute man's contribution to climate change.
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Originally Posted by bluedevilz
"..97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position." https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
So virtually everyone who devotes their lives to this actual study disagrees with you...
The polar ice caps are receding, loss of snow caps cannot be denied, the rise in greenhouse gases has skyrocketed in the past few decades...
But hey...YOU don't think its a problem....experts, shmexperts what do they know anyway.....
Ever wonder how they get the stat of 97% agree? You probably didn't know the source.
There have been 4 studies that perpetuated this myth, all with major flaws, none were done with any scientific rigor. The most referenced "study" and the one linked by NASA for their 97% stat was done by a cartoonist (J Cook, et al) that reported the results to his publisher before he even did the study. A review of the 11,944 papers he referenced showed that only 41 specifically concluded that Man was responsible. If you repeat a lie often enough....
In the 2007 Global Warming Petition project, 31,487 scientists signed the following declaration:
“There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane or other greenhouse gases is causing, or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”
In 2012, forty-nine former NASA scientists, including seven astronauts, sent a letter to NASA expressing their dismay that this agency — specifically the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) — was drawing conclusions based on scientifically flawed climate models that had failed to make accurate predictions and was ignoring other scientific methods of investigation.
For all of these reasons, the idea that 97% of scientists agree that mankind is causing the Earth to heat up is not just a myth. It is pure propaganda relentlessly pushed by those media outlets that do the bidding of those who have profited from it.
Here is another thing - The highest estimate of warming is a whopping 0.8 degrees over the past 150 years, a warming that has tapered off to essentially nothing in the last decade and a half.
Ever wonder how they get the stat of 97% agree? You probably didn't know the source.
There have been 4 studies that perpetuated this myth, all with major flaws, none were done with any scientific rigor. The most referenced "study" and the one linked by NASA for their 97% stat was done by a cartoonist (J Cook, et al) that reported the results to his publisher before he even did the study. A review of the 11,944 papers he referenced showed that only 41 specifically concluded that Man was responsible. If you repeat a lie often enough....
Here is another thing - The highest estimate of warming is a whopping 0.8 degrees over the past 150 years, a warming that has tapered off to essentially nothing in the last decade and a half.
This is the problem. There is a segment of this country that denies man-made climate change despite all the evidence to the contrary. Its amazing what some people believe without evidence and what some people won't believe even with overwhelming evidence. What we are down too is a segment of people first decide what they want to believe and than only consider evidence that supports their position.
You might actually want to read the paper from NASA that you are a doing a bad job attempting to ridicule.
It is a compelling piece in favor of doing something about man-made climate change. Take a look at the graph showing the increase in global temperatures for more than one hundred years. Also, look at the number of scientific groups and organizations that believe man-made climate change is real. Don't keep putting your head in the sand.
If Global leaders really cared about this topic, it would be priority above everything else. They just do enough to appease those that believe the Govt really cares about them in order to get their votes.
Its the equivalent to being trapped in a glass box that's slowly filling up with water. Its inevitable your going to drown until someone says "I will save you" and drills a small hole so that it doesn't fill up as fast. Sure looks like a noble attempt, however, there is a sledge hammer next to the drill that could have easily been used to open up that box completely and preventing it from ever hold water again. The drill was a far better choice for that person though because everytime they use it over the sledgehammer, they get a kickback from the maker of the drill.
Again, there are too many scientists with conflicting views on this subject. It apparent that the climate is changing, but it always has, regardless of humans. Are we speeding it up..maybe, I don't know. The best course of action is to adapt in my opinion, because their will be a point at which its too late to do even that.
The previous record was 63.5 so I’m not really sure what all the hype is about. (Not saying the climate isn’t warming but this one case of a slightly warmer record high proves nothing.)
We should learn a lesson from the dinosaurs. I mean they stood by and watched the climate change and they did nothing to prevent it.
Even if humans account for a small percentage, it's still inevitable and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it. Work with the problem instead of against it; adapt.
We can't do anything to stop it. I agree 100%. The planet will evolve and eventually die. That is the inevitable outcome of the existence of planets.
However, we CAN slow down the change, by contributing to it less than we contribute to it now. Does that mean we need to live in caves again? Absolutely not. It means - not polluting AS much. Not burning fuel AS much. Shifting to renewable fuel sources instead of fossil fuel sources. Growing organics more, recycling more, finding new resources for textiles (did you know you can make clothes with hemp, and sheets with bamboo, and curtains with banana fiber?) instead of robbing the earth's surface of nutrients and then adding artificial nutrients to make up for what we stripped...
Lots of things we can do, to help slow down the process. It's a win-win for the economy too since it will create more jobs.
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