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Tavern closing laws are a tool of the meddlesome, finger-wagging Bourgeoise to ensure that the working class behaves in a manner they find proper.
Also to ensure a sober work force for the employers.
I'm serious. Do a little checking, you'll see.
Yep, the temperance movement has been strong in the early 19th through 20th century. I never really understood it, you think constantly lording over moral superiority and making people feel bad would make them drink more. Especially when one drink was tantamount to the start of the Drunkards Progress and death (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ss_-_B%26W.jpg).
A temperance movement attempts to reduce the amount of alcohol consumed within a community or society in general -- and even to prohibit its production and consumption entirely.
Forcing people to leave at 2 a.m. seems like a bigger problem to me. Everyone tries to get all thier partying in within a few hour time frame. Then at the end you have people slamming their drinks and being forced out onto the streets. It's nonsense.
Oh yes, I'd rather people be drinking coffee at a greasy joint then on the streets...esp if people are slamming a few at last call.
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Also. If American cities actually had decent subway systems and public transportation at night, people would just use that instead. But that's a whole other topic.
Oh heck yeah, I would never drive after consuming enough liqueur...but without a friend and without a bus it's hard to even have 2 scotches without spending more for a cab home. Safe, effective public transit would help a good bit with drunk driving and other things...off this topic but still an important one many cities need to address.
Safe, effective public transit would help a good bit with drunk driving and other things...off this topic but still an important one many cities need to address.
In many (probably most) suburbs the neighborhood tavern that people can walk home from isn't allowed. Just buy the ranch house on the corner and try turning into a tavern and you'll soon see how little love for the free market the local conservatives really have.
Bar owners and staff would like to go home. the drunker people get the less money they spend, I would think you make lots more money during happy hour as you could from 2-6 am
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Tavern closing laws are a tool of the meddlesome, finger-wagging Bourgeoise to ensure that the working class behaves in a manner they find proper.
Also to ensure a sober work force for the employers.
I'm serious. Do a little checking, you'll see.
I think Tom is actually right. Factory productivity goes way down, injuries and truancies way up if the workers are permitted to drink all night long.
I don't see really see that anyone has a damage claim for this practice, however. Has anything good ever happened to you in a bar after midnight? Ok, so maybe you caught crabs a time or two, but if you can't seal the deal by 2 AM you weren't getting lucky anyway and if you haven't sealed the deal by about 11:00 PM you're entering what I like to call "The Danger Zone."
Bar owners and staff would like to go home. the drunker people get the less money they spend, I would think you make lots more money during happy hour as you could from 2-6 am
I don't see really see that anyone has a damage claim for this practice, however. Has anything good ever happened to you in a bar after midnight? Ok, so maybe you caught crabs a time or two, but if you can't seal the deal by 2 AM you weren't getting lucky anyway and if you haven't sealed the deal by about 11:00 PM you're entering what I like to call "The Danger Zone."
Yeah, but not everyone works days. Some people are getting out of work early in the morning and would like a relaxing snort and some social activity.
If in fact there is no economic advantage to bars staying open all night, they would close on their own accord, without a regulation commanding them to do so. If nearly all bars just closed up when staying open would yield diminishing returns, a few could remain open and do a brisk business in whatever trade there is in the late hours. The number of restaurants that are open at 3 am corresponds to what the traffic will bear, with no compelling need for the state to order them closed. Why wouldn't the same principle apply to bars?
The number of restaurants that are open at 3 am corresponds to what the traffic will bear, with no compelling need for the state to order them closed. Why wouldn't the same principle apply to bars?
It would if the busybodies and finger-wagging old schoolmarms weren't involved.
I'm not sure of the reason but perhaps it's to ensure most bar patrons are home before morning rush hour with the idea of less drunk driving fatalities if they are driving when less people are on the road.
Of course, the custom probably began before there were vehicles and is probably something like the bartender/operator wants to go to bed seeing as how the old time saloons appeared to serve more of a daytime crowd than an after-office hour crowd. Maybe he needed to be up and open, earlier.
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