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Old 04-08-2010, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Selfishness is not the issue. Unless you think it is selfish for you to buy your kid a bicycle, but not the kid next door. Human civilization evolved through a natural sense of giving priority treatment and preotection to those within your family, clan, community, state, etc.
Actually, that is selfish


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Old 04-08-2010, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Can you explain that in words I can read in less than 5 minutes and 12 seconds?
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Old 04-08-2010, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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The "natural sense of giving priority treatment to family" and community is selfish because it increases the potential for the individual to spread its genes.
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Old 04-09-2010, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Russian Federation
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What's with all the talk about the selfishness? Everybody's selfish. Everything people ever do is selfish. Every single action.

World would be MUCH better if everyone just accepted that and looked out for themselves, instead of "thinking for the others". Hell, everybody is a trainwreck in one way or the other.
People can't even completely understand themselves, their desires and motivations. Trying to understand others to the point, where you will have a right to influence their lives is naive at the very least.
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Old 04-09-2010, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I think people will just learn one and the same language over time. I say English is a perfect fit here - it's quite easy to learn, fun to master and most of the people speak it already anyways.
It's gonna be like in the Ukraine - everybody speaks two languages - Russian (for communication with other post soviet countries) and Ukranian (as a national traditional language).
Read the book, The Power of Babel, and you'll find out that statement is quite incorrect. Language changes constantly, and 6 billion people on a planet are not all going to be using the same language EVER. There are so many dialects within the same language families. It's just the nature of human language.

Russian and Ukrainian is a perfect example. The people in the United States whose families came here from Ukraine decades ago speak a different form of Ukrainian than the people who currently live in that country, because years of Soviet rule introduced so much Russian into Ukrainian that the language has changed. The only constant about language is that it changes.

Same thing happened to Saxon English after 1066. About 50% of modern English now comes from Norman French.

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Old 04-09-2010, 09:04 AM
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Location: Texas
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Regarding the OP's question~
Just not workable. Consider right now how polarized the United States seems to be with the "red" and the "blue" states and the values represented therein. I can only imagine trying to put together even more diverse groups!
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Old 04-09-2010, 09:53 AM
 
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Any replies to my last post Shkumat? I'm interested in your answers.
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Old 04-09-2010, 10:05 AM
 
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So wouldn't it better if the whole world would be just one country?

1. There'd be no wars
2. It would be harder for terrorsists and and criminals to hide
3. Even if somebody will steal a lot of money, it will still remain in the country
4. Cooperation rather than competition (not the communistic kind of cooperation, of course but still - no stupid "be the first in space/on the moon racing".
5. No language barriers
6. No political conflicts
7. With official freedom of the world religion the religious tensions will fade.

Or is the world fine the way it is?
To answer your first question, NO.

Your assertions, itemized as items 1 - 7 are falacious assumptions more likely than not, to turn out to be flawed, possibly completely. For example cooperation and competition go hand-in-hand. If you have cooperation, but no competition, you have no motive to improve. That is provided ONLY via competition.

The aswer to your second question is also NO. There is simply not nearly enough liberty or capitalism in the world to achieve anything close to optimum benefits.
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Old 04-09-2010, 02:32 PM
 
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The idea sucks. Hate it.
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Old 04-09-2010, 03:06 PM
 
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"Human history is the sad result of each one looking out for himself."
Author: Julio Cortazar

This has been the curse of humans from the beginning, borders are simply lines drawn between selfish groups of people, those lines don't in any way diminish the fact of human self centeredness. Separate or together, people are this way and will not be changing anytime soon.
I think human history has some very fine points, and almost every single one of them, the result of freedom, including economic freedom, which is called capitalism.

When an animal gets sick, it dies. When an animal gets hungry, another animal dies, usually a horrible death.

You are correct that people are they way people are, and you are right, it can't change, because the Nature, man lives in, doesn't change. When nature turns into "utopia" then man will change. However, nature won't change, so forget about it.

If ifs were skiffs, we could all go for a boat ride.
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