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Old 04-21-2010, 10:09 AM
 
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For those who buy into the stereotype that anarchists are violent and want to usher in a world of chaos and terror, consider this insightful and timely essay by John Zerzan and try to reconcile the stereotype with the man and his concerns presented here. My guess is the stereotype will wither away and you may have a new and enlightened opinion about anarchism.

Running on Emptiness: The Failure of Symbolic Thought--John Zerzan
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Old 04-21-2010, 10:57 AM
 
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Pretentious gobbledygook. If the guy can't summarize his point more concisely than that, it's because his point is the center of an imaginary circle that he keeps lapping.

Even Anarchy will ultimately devolve to Oligarchy.

"Whoever sows desire, harvests oppression".---Muriel Berbery
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:02 AM
 
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Pretentious gobbledygook. If the guy can't summarize his point more concisely than that, it's because his point is the center of an imaginary circle that he keeps lapping.

Or perhaps it is the reader's lack of comprehension or patience or both. I guess as one becomes accustomed to pithy sound bites and short comments, one can no longer cares to engage in depth and substance.
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Old 04-21-2010, 11:09 AM
 
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Or perhaps it is the reader's lack of comprehension or patience or both. I guess as one becomes accustomed to pithy sound bites and short comments, one can no longer cares to engage in depth and substance.
It'll be interesting, as this thread progresses, to see if anybody else finds any "depth or substance" in there. I don't have any trouble reading, for example, Louis Lapham or Lewis Mumford, and finding depth or substance in their essays.

By the way, Zerzan wrote that almost a decade ago, and so far, has not set the world on fire with it.

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Old 04-21-2010, 11:22 AM
 
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It'll be interesting, as this thread progresses, to see if anybody else finds any "depth or substance" in there. I don't have any trouble reading, for example, Louis Lapham or Lewis Mumford, and finding depth or substance in their essays.
I won't hold out too much hope as the majority on CD seem to be quite comfortable with their prejudices and narrow views. I will have to check out Lapham.


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By the way, Zerzan wrote that almost a decade ago, and so far, has not set the world on fire with it.
I am aware of that, but it may not be any inherent problems with his ideas that is responsible for its lack of public acceptance, but the public's lack of vision, understanding and openness to revolutionary ideas. Add the steady barrage of propaganda from the established order and innovation has no chance.
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Old 04-21-2010, 04:55 PM
 
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Well, I am obviously not as well read as you two; however, I much agreed with the content of the essay. Simon and Garfunkel said it in "Sounds of Silence"
"And the people bowed and prayed,
to the neon god they made, and so on. The hippies tried to display a simpler life, no need for government, no war, peace and love, but they were only known as a drug culture. However, they did change the state of affairs, if only for a time. I do not think anarchism is a bad thing, it certainly is not worse than the limits the government is constantly putting on our society. Now, the limits are enforced in the name of terrorism. Who is terrorizing the people? Is it that civilization thing? I am fortunate enough to have a home in the country and there is nothing better than to be stuck home in an ice storm, it is beautiful and you live with what you have and it doesn't harm anyone to do without electricity.
If I am off topic, sorry, I started to daydream.
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