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By "Indentured Servant" elsewhere in these threads:
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A society becomes wealthy by virtue of being rich in natural resources, being learned and being exploitive. For most of human history survival required working overtime. It required that not only did you work, but also your children and the elderly. This is because most of this human history was agrarian and was labor intensive, because it lacked modern machines and fossil fuel energy to substitute for human energy. Consequently, there was no leisure or educated classes in such egalitarian societies, therefore, those societies did not advance very rapidly.
The societies that did advance rapidly were societies that were not egalitarian, but rather, exploitive and class based. When one segment of the population takes personal ownership of all the productive resources (land) and forces the landless and resource less to work the land in peonage, in slavery, in indentured servitude, in serfdom or whatever, an educated and leisure class arises from that to advance society through learning, experimentation, trade. If not for the exploited class there would be no elite class that spent their time learning for they would have to spend all their time working the land for their survival like everyone else.
My point is that wealth and advancement is highly correlated with exploitation. Indeed, the industrial revolution was financed and built off the backs of profits from the era of slavery and colonization. The imperialism of white nations extended far beyond the borders of white nations. The natural resources of Africa are mainly in the control whites and not that of blacks. When black nations nationalize their resources, the West seeks to destabilize their government in order to get the resources opened up to the free market. Of course these poor nations don’t have the capital in order to compete in a free market and the resource thus falls into the hands of Western nationals.
In conclusion, black nations of the world have been as influenced by whites as have black people living within the USA.
Actually, agricultural existence, though by no means easy, had growing seasons, and weren't the same thing as a kid being tied to a machine during the early industrial revolution.
Yes, advancement has long been based on explotation. But the industrial revolution was not based on the exploitation of blacks, LOL!
If anything is was based on enticing agricultural folks into the factories. See Henry Ford. LOL!
People of all stripes, and children were exploited. Though of a lesser degree today, it's still true.
Boy oh boy Indentured Servant, you are having a fun time trying to rewrite history aren't you.
You've got to get off this, "Blacks built the whole world" afrocentrist trip you are on. Geez, the africans in Nigeria, who are loaded with oil, can't even manage their affairs. Geez, your as bad as those folks that want to believe ancient egyptians were magic or something, rather than the snake worshippers they really were, LOL!
Getting back to the point this thread was drawn from. In contemporary times black = decline, despite actions taken to assist blacks, like affirmative action.
You time would be better spent convincing black youth to do better in school, rather than being gangsta. As I think it was Mike Jordan said, "More young blacks need to get educated, be doctors and lawyers rather than shooting hoops all day, dreaming to be in the NBA". And he's correct. There's what 900 in the NBA, total.
Rather than crying about slavery that ended 150 years ago, and Jim Crow that ended with Civil Rights, you need to wake up to the now.
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Well in a way slaves help build the 1930-40's empire's of Japan and Germany......and the following war helped build the American Empire, as we were the only one left standing....
Of course Japanesse slaves were Koreans and Chinese, while German Slaves were of European Decent or Jewish....
On the other hand, it requires a lot less commitment to cry about what happened in the past.
And effort. But in fairness, given how well the something-for-nothing BS has worked (welfare, Affirmative Action, militant race card playing, white guilt trip bit, on and on and ad nauseum), can you blame them for milking it for all it's worth? I blame the bleeding heart mental midgets it's worked on far more.
By "Indentured Servant" elsewhere in these threads:
Actually, agricultural existence, though by no means easy, had growing seasons, and weren't the same thing as a kid being tied to a machine during the early industrial revolution.
Yes, advancement has long been based on explotation. But the industrial revolution was not based on the exploitation of blacks, LOL!
If anything is was based on enticing agricultural folks into the factories. See Henry Ford. LOL!
People of all stripes, and children were exploited. Though of a lesser degree today, it's still true.
Boy oh boy Indentured Servant, you are having a fun time trying to rewrite history aren't you.
You've got to get off this, "Blacks built the whole world" afrocentrist trip you are on. Geez, the africans in Nigeria, who are loaded with oil, can't even manage their affairs. Geez, your as bad as those folks that want to believe ancient egyptians were magic or something, rather than the snake worshippers they really were, LOL!
Getting back to the point this thread was drawn from. In contemporary times black = decline, despite actions taken to assist blacks, like affirmative action.
You time would be better spent convincing black youth to do better in school, rather than being gangsta. As I think it was Mike Jordan said, "More young blacks need to get educated, be doctors and lawyers rather than shooting hoops all day, dreaming to be in the NBA". And he's correct. There's what 900 in the NBA, total.
Rather than crying about slavery that ended 150 years ago, and Jim Crow that ended with Civil Rights, you need to wake up to the now.
Didn't most of the IR take place in the north east, which was void of slaves?????
The first official legal recognition of chattel slavery as a legal institution in British North America was in Massachusetts, in 1641, with the “Body of Liberties.” Slavery was legalized in New Plymouth and Connecticut when it was incorporated into the Articles of the New England Confederation (1643). Rhode Island enacted a similar law in 1652. That means New England had formal, legal slavery a full generation before it was established in the South. Not until 1664 did Maryland declare that all blacks held in the colony, and all those imported in the future, would serve for life, as would their offspring. Virginia followed suit by the end of the decade. New York and New Jersey acquired legal slavery when they passed to English control in the 1660s. Pennsylvania, founded only in 1682, followed in 1700, with a law for regulation of servants and slaves.
Roughly speaking, slavery in the North can be divided into two regions. New England slaves numbered only about 1,000 in 1708, but that rose to more than 5,000 in 1730 and about 13,000 by 1750. New England also was the center of the slave trade in the colonies, supplying captive Africans to the South and the Caribbean island. Black slaves were a valuable shipping commodity that soon proved useful at home, both in large-scale agriculture and in ship-building. The Mid-Atlantic colonies (New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania) had been under Dutch rule before the British conquered them in 1664. African slavery in the middle colonies had been actively encouraged by the Dutch authorities, and this was continued by the British.
Well in a way slaves help build the 1930-40's empire's of Japan and Germany......and the following war helped build the American Empire, as we were the only one left standing....
Of course Japanesse slaves were Koreans and Chinese, while German Slaves were of European Decent or Jewish....
Good points. Blacks in the U.S. seem to think they have a corner on the market for having been forced into slavery.
What always jumps out at me is how slavery was actually legal in parts of Africa right up to about 2007, if I recall correctly.
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