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Old 01-28-2011, 01:41 AM
 
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as well as the decline of other insects. Are the FDA & EPA slowly allowing Bayer to kill us indirectly? Half-life in heavy soil of residue from treated seeds (corn, canola) is approx. 19 years. No bees or other pollinators, no birds, no crops.

Old article but I hadn't heard of this before.

Clothianidin: a neonicotinoid pesticide highly toxic to Honeybees and other pollinators


newer article from 2010

Bayer: Bee-Toxic Pesticide Killed German Bees, But Is Safe in America | Fast Company

and from Wikileaks an article that suggests the EPA has been knowingly complicit

Wik-Bee Leaks: EPA Document Shows It Knowingly Allowed Pesticide That Kills Honey Bees | Fast Company
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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For what its worth, nicotine insecticides have been promoted for decades as a "natural" alternative to commercial chemical incecticides. A google search finds how to make nicotine incecticicde tea on many green living and natural websites. Its not the commecial companies alone that are to blame, natural, organic, green or whatever you want to call it groups have been usining nicotine for a long long time.
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Old 01-28-2011, 04:04 PM
 
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It is an ingredient in the nicotine based insecticide, not the nicotine itself, that is thought to be responsible for problem.
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Old 01-28-2011, 06:48 PM
 
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This type of reporting sickens me.... no facts, just the authors viewpoint. Could also call this reporting FUD or just another conspiracy nut....

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and from Wikileaks an article that suggests the EPA has been knowingly complicit

Wik-Bee Leaks: EPA Document Shows It Knowingly Allowed Pesticide That Kills Honey Bees | Fast Company
Funny what the Garden Web (an organic web site) has to say about nicotine:

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15. Tobacco products - this is definitely a classic natural pesticide, but most organic gardeners today stay away from it. It may kill beneficials too if abused. It can cause diseases on tomatoes if not properly used. Most modern pro-tobacco pesticidal tea experts suggest to brew a tobacco tea no more than 30 minutes, to be safe enough to not harm beneficials like bees and ladybugs. You can mix in a liquid soap as a spreader-sticker. NOTE: Do not use tobacco teas on nightshade family crops. Also recent research has proven that the available nicotine produced in a tobacco tea is not the same stuff as nicotine sulfate. It is much safer than nicotine sulfate or rotenene. Just one drop of pure nicotine sulfate on your skin can may you sick. Homemade tobacco teas have great knock down power for tough pests like Japanese beetles. Chewing tobaccos are the most safest, natural forms for these homemade tobacco teas
What are some Great Natural Pesticidal and Fungicidal Recipes? -
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Old 01-28-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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I learn some things by coming here. Who knew that nightshade foods contain minute amounts of nicotine? Not me, that's certain.

WHFoods: What are nightshades and in which foods are they found?
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