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Old 08-18-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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People here scorn the idea of LNG powering vehicles, well here is more proof that slowly but surely it's coming and it's promise is 1,000% more environmentally friendly than electric vehicles...

Natural gas slowly makes its way to your filling station
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:56 PM
 
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Natural gas will be coming but for years to come it will be like seen here already 'limited mileage use by companies who have their own infrsatructure to supply. To retrofit natural gas staions now wouldn't be cost effective to invest in with limit numbers be used. much more likelyy commerical vehilces in limited numbers to be converted to thsi fuel.LNG is liquid natural gas and storage and transport is another matter.
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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The issue with natural gas and private cars is long term storage. While propane can be liquified easily, and has been regularly used to power vehicles, natural gas requires pressure and cold. In a commercial truck that is constantly on the road, that is fine. In Aunt Maude's personal car that she drives once a week, not such a good idea. It either has to be vented off safely or some serious cooling applied (adding weight) or risk explosion.

It seems obvious to me that there is an intent to minimize diesel fuel long term, and it seems to have started soon after the OK City bombing. Demand low sulfur, raise the pricing, introduce alternatives like LNG, etc.
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Old 08-22-2012, 04:03 AM
 
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Electric car harm the environment and many things, many should switch to green living and save environment.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: ๏̯͡๏﴿ Gwinnett-That's a Civil Matter-County
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Electric car harm the environment and many things, many should switch to green living and save environment.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Natural gas can be used to power cars after it is recombined into gasoline in a chemical refinery. I have driven a compressed natural gas fueled vehicle and IMHO the technology is not ready for prime time. Refilling the tanks takes far too long.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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Natural gas can be used to power cars after it is recombined into gasoline in a chemical refinery. I have driven a compressed natural gas fueled vehicle and IMHO the technology is not ready for prime time. Refilling the tanks takes far too long.
Agree, I drove the Chrysler Turbine car at the World's Fair, responsiveness of the gas pedal was really bad.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The problem with turbine acceleration and throttle response is cause by the relatively high angular momentum of the engine's rotating parts and the low torque available. Unlike a piston engine the engine does not wind up rapidly. Combining a turbine engine with a hybrid electric drive should provide good acceleration with turbine efficiency.

I considered this for the 1972 urban vehicle project but could not find any students in the electrical engineering department that wanted to tackle the electric drive and energy recovery systems.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Natural Gas is not made into gasoline. They are two different things. Natural Gas can and does power vehicles and has for many years. My guess is that since there is so much of it, it will be the fuel of the future, especially considering the cost savings.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Natural gas engines have some definite advantages over any other fuel but to get best results those engines will have to be engineered to NG. The need for Catalytic Converters will be eliminated, saving scarce resources. Pollution is drastically reduced. We will see a return to Full Service filling stations because too many people are not capable of fueling with NG. Getting my oil checked, windows washed etc sounds like a big positive to me.
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