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Old 04-19-2013, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I do not consider that to be silly at all but a reasonable estimate of the situation. Most folks have no idea of the hazardous nature of Ammonium Nitrate.
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Old 04-19-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Some dont ,,, A fertilizer bomb was used by Timothy McVeigh in the April 19, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City that killed 168 men, women and children.
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Old 04-19-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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It was most probably the nitric acid oxidizing everything that caused the explosion along with the ammonium nitrate. But im curious what the fuel was.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Bend Or.
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Obviously many of these posters have never been in rural farm country much. There are plants like this or slightly smaller in THOUSANDS of towns. Typically the fertilizer plants have been there for many years, serving the farmers. Do you really expect every one of them to relocate and buy buffer property because the town grew around them?

It is not poor planning, there was no planning back when they were built. a town of say 500 perople does not have a master plan. And many of the harzards were not known when the plants were built.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:36 AM
 
Location: DC
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Obviously many of these posters have never been in rural farm country much. There are plants like this or slightly smaller in THOUSANDS of towns. Typically the fertilizer plants have been there for many years, serving the farmers. Do you really expect every one of them to relocate and buy buffer property because the town grew around them?

It is not poor planning, there was no planning back when they were built. a town of say 500 perople does not have a master plan. And many of the harzards were not known when the plants were built.
When they see their next insurance bill for being located in town, they will relocate. The fertilizer company is liable for all this death and damage.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Poor judgement by the government officials of West.
do you think that the government from the East, North, or South is any smarter? It is not a trick question. and spell check did not catch my mistake of putting government and smart within the same sentence.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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From reprots the explosio and fires burnoff any problem with enviromental dangers accord to what EPA offical on site have said. One only has to loo at anyhwere there is dangrous matrials and even grai elvastors to see simlialr explosive potential. Life is dangerous ebside the natural environment. There are alot of disasters rght i neignborhoods or travel our major highway thru majot cities now. Often it was thru wantig them to travel thru by local poicitcs rather tha go around outskirts.We are just now really dealig with what was built in highweay materials hazards with loops and truck routes.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Ammonium Nitrate will explode by itself if it gets hot enough. Heat causes the chemical to break down as an exothermic reaction that triggers more breakdown and very quickly a detonation. Adding a fuel, oil or powdered aluminum, releases more heat energy as these chemically oxidize in the excess oxygen created by the initial Ammonium Nitrate explosion. This is a dangerous material if improperly handled or subject to fire.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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So will water greg. about the same temp too.
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