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Yeah, I'm not really sure why this topic even exists here? Seems like people who want nothing to do with Green Living come in and find any chance they get to argue about Climate Change. I think you're right!
Sort of. I'm not buying any low-lying property near the ocean. In the next three decades it would be a good idea to divest yourself of any Florida real-estate you might have. Now, the problems won't start for 50+ years, but I wouldn't want to be (or want my kids to be) the one[s] left holding the bag in 2040.
I am building a house near the sea (not in the USA). In selecting the land, I'm mindful to keep it at least 30 meters above MSL (5 meters for climate change, 25 meters for Tsunamis). The parcel of land is away from unstable hillsides (in case of mudslides) and the foundation will be on pilings driven into the bedrock, but that's more for earthquake protection, and doesn't have much to do with climate change. My architect is working to include good drainage and land-holding, storm-resistant landscaping. Construction will be steel-reinforced concrete with heavy-duty retractable storm shutters and a backup generator in a protected courtyard, because this is in a Typhoon-prone area and I expect the storms to only become more intense thanks to climate change.
This is actually not all that different from the common construction in the area, but this home, while beautiful, will physically be a bunker that should stand for a few hundred years, despite enhanced storms and rising sea levels. The land should last more-or-less forever. Hopefully my progeny will keep it in the family, or benefit from selling it when prices rise in the future. Of course, I can do all this because prices are very cheap right now. In a few years the land value and other costs will rise as the nearby city expands and more people in this country become wealthy and want to have a vacation home near the sea. But now is a great time to get my foot in the door and build against future needs and storms. Climate change isn't my first consideration, but it is a significant contributor to where and how I build.
If I were living in Tornado alley or somewhere in the USA with Hurricanes, where flimsy wood-frame and siding construction is about all I could afford (or a pre-existing house with same) I would just make sure my insurance covered storm damage well enough that I could rebuild, and keep all my important documents in the cloud, online. I'd dig a storm shelter if there wasn't already a basement. Again, I wouldn't live in any low-lying areas for an extended period of time. If I ended up with a stake in some family property in such an area, and I would sell my lot the next time the market goes up, and advise anyone else I knew to do the same.
I'll buy all of your worthless Florida real estate and get you off the hook for the ****storm in 2040. Of course, in consideration for the worthless nature of the asset - there will be a considerable adjustment in the price per acre or price per square foot basis.
DCforever = "The oil companies pay people to post denials on message boards."
Do you have a link? I'd like to apply for that job! LOL
/sarc off
I'm preparing for 'climate change' by electing politicans who the left calls 'deniers'. That and improving the insulation of my home, replacing older less efficient appliances, planting more edibles (hoping they don't freeze in the next ice age), and improving my disaster preparedness skills / equipment (e.g., experimenting with a solar still - PGC MD water problems illustrate the need for access to potable water).
preparing for climate change is equated on your geographic location. In the northeast expect more intense precipitation, storms winter and summer. Coastal storms be they non tropical or tropical could be enhanced- summers will become hotter, invasive plant and animal species are likely. Allergies will become worse. Flooding will become more of problem- coastal and beach erosion will increase along with sea rise- of about 1 foot by 2035
In the South expect the same as in the NE- longer hotter summers, intense storms, hurricanes could be enhanced- invasive species, FL Will face sea rise problems by 2030. a rise of 1 foot in Greater Miami by 2030 - causing huge problems for that metro area.
in the Great plains and western mid west expect more summer heat, more drought- even if precipitation does not drop- since more heat will cause more evaporation. The southwest will become hotter and drier- The Great lakes may subside slightly, become warmer-
Coastal CA will be slightly warmer, with precipitation diminishing more in the south. Reduce snow pack in winter. Sea rise a problem. The northwest will be warmer, with erratic precipitation, with a likely reduction in the winter, along with reduced snow pack in the mountains.
Every region of the country will have to adapt to their local climates- just look for more intense precipitation events, heat waves, droughts, flooding, sea rise, coastal storms- just hope you are not in the bulls eye! C02 in the atmosphere is a delayed event- we are now seeing C02 from heat being trapped at 1990 levels when it was near 360ppm- We passed 400ppm this spring the outcome of these levels will not be seen until the 2030s. We have another 50ppm C02 in the pipeline- bringing us to 450ppm- likely by 2032- which is the real danger point between dangerous change- and very dangerous.
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Just curious, is anyone doing anything to prepare for predicted weather? They say that carbon has now reached 400 ppm (and growing). Seems the second year in a row where we didn't have much of a spring (although better than last year)...I dream of buying land and building a small home, but it seems nearly impossible to do because of 'rules' and regulations
No. If meteorologists can't predict what tomorrow's weather is going to be with any accuracy whatsoever, what makes you think they are going to be any closer to the mark as to what it will be 10, 20 or 50 years from now?
No. If meteorologists can't predict what tomorrow's weather is going to be with any accuracy whatsoever, what makes you think they are going to be any closer to the mark as to what it will be 10, 20 or 50 years from now?
Logical fallacy. Weather and climate are not the same. You only care about weather predictions for small areas which are hard to do. I can reliably predict that it will be colder in December than it is now.
At the risk of actually answering the OP's question we are:
Moving to an area that has a cooler base climate, Building an efficient, green built home, with an energy supply that is over 80% sustainable sources, and relying on technologies that are proven to have a smaller footprint (ICF is not one of them, the efficiency isn't there, we learned the hard way)
Growing our own food as much as possible. Passive solar, advanced framing techniques, High efficiency windows and Sustainable efficient insulation.
Yeah, I'm not really sure why this topic even exists here? Seems like people who want nothing to do with Green Living come in and find any chance they get to argue about Climate Change. I think you're right!
True enough. Most of these people equate climate change with "man-made" climate change and are fearful about footing the bill of government action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
What they don't realize is that it makes no difference to a river, or a plant, or pests, or disease vector who is causing the unusual weather being experienced in many places in the world. To the extent that this weather is affecting our lives in adverse ways, we are paying the costs already, and there are actions we can take to reduce these impacts...at some cost, although they have will have no effect on whatever is causing climate change. To the extent that the reduced costs of the actions we take are greater then the costs of taking these actions, we are acting in our own best interests (but not always society's).
Try telling that to someone who doesn't "believe in" climate change.
True enough. Most of these people equate climate change with "man-made" climate change and are fearful about footing the bill of government action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
What they don't realize is that it makes no difference to a river, or a plant, or pests, or disease vector who is causing the unusual weather being experienced in many places in the world. To the extent that this weather is affecting our lives in adverse ways, we are paying the costs already, and there are actions we can take to reduce these impacts...at some cost, although they have will have no effect on whatever is causing climate change. To the extent that the reduced costs of the actions we take are greater then the costs of taking these actions, we are acting in our own best interests (but not always society's).
Try telling that to someone who doesn't "believe in" climate change.
True, there is no difference regarding cause. Sea level rise, for example, is real unless you want to argue with scientific evidence! Look at this....Sea Level | Climate Change | US EPA
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