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Old 11-10-2013, 07:44 PM
 
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We've been discussing this in the Lubbock forum.

It seems that my Texas South Plains farm is in the footprint of that "world’s largest community-sponsored wind farm." Time will tell if it is a blessing or a curse for my family.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:57 PM
 
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I'll ask you again, what are the limitations?
Huh? I wasn't the one who raised the question of limitations.

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I hate to pop your bubble but Hayes and Floyd counties are within the Texas grid...

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It isn't popping any bubble of mine. I've got no dog in this hunt at all. I just find it to be interesting.

And I thought I was quite clear that I'm quite unclear about the geography involved. It just seemed at a glance like Lubbock might be in that chunk of the panhandle that belongs to the Eastern grid.

Oh, but then I went back and read the article I mentioned, and it actually addresses the question...

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When completed, it will add about 500 MW to the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, which serves the majority of Texas,
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600 MW to the Southwest Power Pool Electric Energy Network, which serves states all the way to the East Coast, said Curtis King, senior vice president of investor relations for Tri Global Energy.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:58 PM
 
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Funny that everybody is so concerned about "evil wind farms" in West Texas
but I never hear anybody being concerned about the radioactive waste sites in West Texas.

Texas Site Begins Taking Federal Nuclear Waste : NPR - Jun. 2013
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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Huh? I wasn't the one who raised the question of limitations.

It isn't popping any bubble of mine. I've got no dog in this hunt at all. I just find it to be interesting.

And I thought I was quite clear that I'm quite unclear about the geography involved. It just seemed at a glance like Lubbock might be in that chunk of the panhandle that belongs to the Eastern grid.

Oh, but then I went back and read the article I mentioned, and it actually addresses the question...

AND
My bad, am on new meds...
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Old 11-11-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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Pretty much. The amount of misinformation/outright lies that are regularly circulated and then repeated about wind power by individuals who purport to be concerned about the environment is simply amazing. I'm not sure what their motivation is except that they're modern day Luddites with a fundamental antipathy to technology.

Birds and bats would have to be pretty lame if they can't avoid moving turning wind turbine blades as they move fairly slowly. When the wind speed is too high, the turbines shut down.
About 600,000 bats killed by wind turbines in 2012, study shows - CBS News

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In the process of creating sustainable energy, wind turbines across the United States are also taking a toll on a species that is vital to our ecosystem: bats.

More than 600,000 bats fell victim to the turbines in 2012, according to a new study.
And that's a conservative number.

Also, bats don't die from running into or being hit by the blades. It's caused by barotrauma.

Bat deaths from wind turbines explained | News & Events | University of Calgary
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:15 PM
 
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Funny that everybody is so concerned about "evil wind farms" in West Texas
but I never hear anybody being concerned about the radioactive waste sites in West Texas.
I would be very concerned if the fence around the waste site enclosed my farm.

BTW, I believe New Mexico is taking some of their own low-level waste at the W.I.P.P. in the southeastern part of New Mexico.
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:19 PM
 
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Yes, regrettably there are bat deaths at wind turbines in certain areas, at certain times of the year, primarily during migrations, and primarily affecting a few species. .

These accidental deaths are very unfortunated, and research is underway to try to find ways to prevent them. But it should not be inferred from the news stories that bat deaths happen all the time, or at all locations.

Also, for perspective, the number of reported deaths is a very small fraction of the total population.
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Old 11-12-2013, 03:57 AM
 
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Also, for perspective, the number of reported deaths is a very small fraction of the total population.
Hmm... I guess I won't say anything since this isn't the politics and controversies thread.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:10 AM
 
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The awarness of danger to Avian life has halted at least one wind project....
Developers ditch disputed Minn. wind farm project - Yahoo Finance
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:30 AM
 
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If thats the case, then big buildings should be taken down too and cars and every other thing birds run into .how stupid.
I have a wind mill and it has never been hit by a bird .
Animals through out time have dared and competed with any thing bigger than it's self.
I have rabbits the race with me on the property when I drive in , its just their nature.
On the motorcycle I have had birds try to fly in between cars and my self deliberately it is nothing unusual.
I say the radioactive danger, is far greater, than that of billions of wind turbines.
Personally , I would rather that people take a personal interest in solar power, and take responsibility for producing their own power.
It would be best in every way. less abuse, and less waste. and more ownership of the responsibility.
You want to add a TV to the bed room ? do you have the energy to run it ?
invest in another solar panel.
To do so and you are not adding to the problem to the world .
I practice what I preach. and I'm not rich .
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