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Old 09-05-2014, 09:09 AM
 
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For those interested in electric cars, there are two more models to choose from. The first is the VW Golf and the second is the Kia Soul. What both have to offer is functional storage. The range isn't great which is a problem for most customers. The VW Golf has the option of a turbo diesel which has pretty high MPG. Chevrolet has a turbo diesel Cruze which also has high MPG. More compact sedans are approaching or surpassing 40 mpg highway and 30 mpg city. Subcompact cars don't offer the 40+ MPG highway but petty good city MPG. The sad thing is the real micro cars like the FIAT 500, Smart Car, and others of similar size don't match the MPG of the compact sedans.
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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Micro Car and not great MPG, means I would rather have a larger car... Also, until the rest of the USA starts driving smaller cars, I don't like being the fly on the windshield of a large truck or SUV. Even though we have a "small" car, it is still big compared to a smart car.
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:58 PM
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I'm surprised no one has started a thread yet on the hydrogen cars coming out next year, one by Toyota the other by Hyundai.
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Old 09-09-2014, 06:26 PM
 
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Another small target market "compliance" car... Kinda like the EV Rav4 or the Honda Fit or the Fiat 500e....
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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I'm surprised no one has started a thread yet on the hydrogen cars coming out next year, one by Toyota the other by Hyundai.
Actually, we have... I just did a search on Hydrogen in this forum and came up with 439 hits, including these threads...

.Toyota, Honda and Hyundai Unveiling Hydrogen Powered Cars

Toyota to drop EV line, to concentrate on Hydrogen Fuel Cell cars

Search is your friend!
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:32 PM
 
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The sad thing is the real micro cars like the FIAT 500, Smart Car, and others of similar size don't match the MPG of the compact sedans.
Look again... The Smart ForTwo Electric, selling for about $25,000, has these specs...

MPGe 122 city, 93 hwy and 107 combined
Range 76 city, 59 hwy and 68 combined

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Old 09-10-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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That smart car just looks like they picked it before it was ripe...

I know it has a place and a busy downtown or tourist area it is probably PERFECT - Key West comes to mind as one place. I just couldn't see using one for my daily commute and running errands. Of course there are 4 of us... so that might having something to do with it.

I could see that car being used in some remote areas. A good set of tracks on it and it's light enough not to sink into mud/snow... Although your worries go from hitting larger car to hitting a large game animal.
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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That smart car just looks like they picked it before it was ripe...

I know it has a place and a busy downtown or tourist area it is probably PERFECT - Key West comes to mind as one place.
Yep, as an urban commuter and personal transport it works well. They are being used by the Car2Go car sharing service in DC, San Diego, and Austin, among others.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:26 PM
 
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For those interested in electric cars, there are two more models to choose from. The first is the VW Golf and the second is the Kia Soul. What both have to offer is functional storage. The range isn't great which is a problem for most customers. The VW Golf has the option of a turbo diesel which has pretty high MPG. Chevrolet has a turbo diesel Cruze which also has high MPG. More compact sedans are approaching or surpassing 40 mpg highway and 30 mpg city. Subcompact cars don't offer the 40+ MPG highway but petty good city MPG. The sad thing is the real micro cars like the FIAT 500, Smart Car, and others of similar size don't match the MPG of the compact sedans.
In city driving the tiny cars are probably much more efficient. Only on the highways is aero more important than weight
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:52 PM
 
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Yep, as an urban commuter and personal transport it works well. They are being used by the Car2Go car sharing service in DC, San Diego, and Austin, among others.
Saw them the last time I was in Miami too. (Car2Go)
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