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Old 10-08-2014, 03:20 PM
 
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I have always been told that grass,plants and trees have a nervous system. Plants are supposed to respond to talking and music. Do you believe grass feels pain?
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Old 10-08-2014, 03:35 PM
 
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I have always been told that grass,plants and trees have a nervous system. Plants are supposed to respond to talking and music. Do you believe grass feels pain?
Neurologists would argue with this, saying that the sensory system plants have is far less sophisticated than an actual nervous system is. The fact that they can sense some things and respond to them does not equate to having a nervous system or feeling pain.

In any case, I think you might get better responses if you post this on the Gardening forum, or maybe the Biology forum.

Now get out there and mow the lawn! No more excuses!
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Old 10-08-2014, 04:02 PM
 
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Neurologists would argue with this, saying that the sensory system plants have is far less sophisticated than an actual nervous system is. The fact that they can sense some things and respond to them does not equate to having a nervous system or feeling pain.

In any case, I think you might get better responses if you post this on the Gardening forum, or maybe the Biology forum.

Now get out there and mow the lawn! No more excuses!
Well, thank you.I wasn't sure where to put it. I considered a couple of other places by,of course,chose the wrong one.
Loved your punch line. Lol.
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Old 10-08-2014, 08:00 PM
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Fish do not feel pain like many other animals, and I would doubt plants have that sensory.
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Old 10-08-2014, 10:38 PM
 
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Fish do not feel pain like many other animals, and I would doubt plants have that sensory.
Really? I honestly didn't know that. I really always thought that any living organism that had a brain felt pain.The reason I asked about grass that I have always read and heard that plants have a nervous system and they respond to talk, touch a nd music.
When my father was alive,he lived out in the country and his home was covered in vines. There was always a small old timey radio in one of the back bedroom Windows. Soft music played all of the time.One of the vines broke through the screen,and over a period of time,it made its way to the little radio. Was it responding to the vibrations the little radio was emitting or to the music?
As far as the fish go,I honestly thought they felt a great deal of pain.
Thank you.
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:02 PM
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Really? I honestly didn't know that. I really always thought that any living organism that had a brain felt pain.The reason I asked about grass that I have always read and heard that plants have a nervous system and they respond to talk, touch a nd music.
When my father was alive,he lived out in the country and his home was covered in vines. There was always a small old timey radio in one of the back bedroom Windows. Soft music played all of the time.One of the vines broke through the screen,and over a period of time,it made its way to the little radio. Was it responding to the vibrations the little radio was emitting or to the music?
As far as the fish go,I honestly thought they felt a great deal of pain.
Thank you.
Do fish feel pain? Not as humans do, study suggests -- ScienceDaily
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Old 10-09-2014, 04:21 PM
 
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I have always been told that grass,plants and trees have a nervous system. Plants are supposed to respond to talking and music. Do you believe grass feels pain?

Sorry. To feel "pain" a sentient being needs to a central nervous system, and plants to not have this. Which is probably a good thing for them, in view of the seasonal dying-off, pruning, and animal & insect predation that continually afflicts them.
They DO have DNA, which of course serves to direct cell and protein growth and replication, but that's about as far as they get in complexity. And through photosynthesis they can produce fuel, like chlorophyll, from sunlight and water and carbon dioxide.
But the theory that plants and trees "feel" is an old, and alas, still-persistent one in some, but very few circles. This school of thought is called "animism." One of it's biggest, early proponents was the French philosopher Rene Descartes. (Yeah, that's right: the "I think therefore I am" guy). LOL.
But: no reputable biologist or botanist today believes in this.

p.s. I noticed some people wondering about fish. The long-held theory that they DO NOT feel pain has actually come under attack in recent years, as some studies have been performed which hint otherwise. Devices placed their underwater habitats were rigged to give the fish a mild electrical shock when they came to them for food. Seems many of the fish learned to avoid these rigged-up feeders and move on to eat from other inert ones!

---Any Biology questions out there? Be sure to see my thread in Science Forum: Ask a Biologist! I'd be glad to answer!---

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Old 10-09-2014, 05:09 PM
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p.s. I noticed some people wondering about fish. The long-held theory that they DO NOT feel pain has actually come under attack in recent years, as some studies have been performed which hint otherwise. Devices placed their underwater habitats were rigged to give the fish a mild electrical shock when they came to them for food. Seems many of the fish learned to avoid these rigged-up feeders and move on to eat from other inert ones!

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Fish move by using the magnetic field, electric shock is therefore not a good test to use for this, read the link I provided, it is the accepted norm now around the world.
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Old 10-09-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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to feel pain, you must first have a consciousness.
I don't know about a fish
But Im positive grass doesn't have one.
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Old 10-09-2014, 06:13 PM
 
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Simply put. NO!
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