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The amount of ice at the poles has changed since they existed. Only recently have humans figured out they could blame it all on people and make money doing so.
Only recently has it changed so drastically and so rapidly. Native tribes living in the area for thousands of years say that what is happening now is unprecedented in their people's history. Weather changes rapidly. Weather changes quickly. Weather changes all the time. But not climate.
But climate... which is the weather trend over long periods of time... normally changes slowly. It is only within our lifetime that it has changed so rapidly that 1,000 years worth of glacier buildup can disappear in 25 years.
Like I said, if you can put down the preconceptions and biases long enough to actually look at the information that is available, it's beyond all the skepticism and scoffing and disbelief. There's simply far too much data that rapid climate change is real for any reasonable person to ignore. Within the scientific community, that debate has been over and done for a decade. The US Military has already been planning for it for years, as have most government entities around the world.
To deny that rapid climate change is real, at this late date, is really to disassociate yourself from modern science and rational thought.
The science around causes and possible cures is not as settled, although the evidence for it being caused by carbon dioxide emissions in the air caused by human activities which burn carbon based fuels is very strong, and has won the consensus of a large majority of scientists working on the issues. It may not be conclusive, but it is strongly compelling, with no other theory about what is happening that enjoys even a fraction of the same support among climate scientists.
And the irony to me, since virtually the entire opposition to these scientific conclusions has been financed by the fossil fuel industry, which has trillions of dollars at stake, is that that people who fall into line behind their propaganda are all so focused on the money they think the other side is making out of this controversy. But the combined fossil fuel industry, in all its permutations, has vastly more money on the table, and in their activities and interests is where the real money trail is to be followed.
yep they do not explain the increase it one and not the other. It could even be solar as many have started saying and nothing we can do about that.
It absolutely IS solar, yes, but since the ouput of the sun has not changed, there's really only one other place to look... at the amount of solar energy that gets trapped inside the "greenhouse" of earth's atmosphere, as a portion of the energy that would normally be radiated out to space can't get past the greenhouse gasses in the upper atmosphere.
And we've been increasing that reflective layer ever since the industrial use of coal, oil, and gas began. That's precisely what switching to renewable energy sources that don't emit carbon pollution is all about.
I see how this works. If I don't agree with every climate change talking point I'm not being rational and I refuse to see modern science. Damn, that's convenient.
If sceintists can't even decide if eggs are good or bad for you, something that simple in the grand scheme of things, why in the hell would I assume they're 100% right about the big stuff? The meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs was a whole lot worse than anything we can do, and we're still here.
I see how this works. If I don't agree with every climate change talking point I'm not being rational and I refuse to see modern science. Damn, that's convenient.
No, that isn't it. Even well informed people can disagree on specific points. The problem with trying to have rational discussion in this area is that so many people are NOT well informed, but have strong opinions about everything nonetheless, opinions which are based on personal bias or political agenda, rather than on factual information.
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If sceintists can't even decide if eggs are good or bad for you, something that simple in the grand scheme of things, why in the hell would I assume they're 100% right about the big stuff?
They don't have to be 100% right to be useful to us. Virtually all of modern life is based on science, which is a systematic search for truth and understanding. A couple of days ago scientists fired a powerful rocket into space, had it circle twice around the earth at an altitude of 36,000 miles... 15 times higher than the space lab... then dropped it into the ocean at almost the exact point targeted.
That's useful stuff, and it comes from the same people who are studying the atmosphere, and the ice caps, and the environment. So why WOULDN'T you believe them, when the main voices claiming they are wrong are people who have a lot of money at stake if we shut down the use of fossil fuels and all the pollution they produce?
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The meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs was a whole lot worse than anything we can do, and we're still here.
Factually, we were not here when that occurred, and very little life on earth did survive. Mankind did not emerge until many millions of years later.
That's because you aren't a scientist, and aren't considering the big picture.
The seas are rising, and coastal lowland areas are at risk all over the world. The two main causes, as determined by researchers are that 1) melting glaciers and pack ice, much of them on solid ground, are flooding the ocean with additional water and 2) warm water is less dense than cold water, so it not only floats, but it expands.
At 63yrs. old I don't need to be a "scientist" we've heard this all long ago with no results,I don't appreciate you filling our youth with nonsense.Shame on you.
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