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Old 12-07-2014, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Central CT, sometimes FL and NH.
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I came upon a STEM estimation problem this past week involving the amount of carbon emitted in one gallon of gas. The problem asked how many gallons of carbon are emitted per tank of gas if the tank is 14.5 and each gallon emits 19.62 pounds of CO2? 15 x 20 = 300 lbs. To put it into perspective, I looked up the number of vehicles in the world and found that it surpassed 1 billion in 2010 with the US possessing nearly 1/4 (1.3 vehicles per person) of the world's vehicles. I was familiar with the US figure because I've used that data before but was surprised that the total number of vehicles wasn't higher (a good thing). If one tank of gas is used per week this amounts to approximately 300 billion pounds of manufactured CO2 added to the naturally-produced levels each week. China has the second largest number of vehicles at 78 million. If the current vehicle growth rate continues in China, India and other growing countries it is estimated that there will be 2.5 billion vehicles in 2050. Even with reduced emissions and fuel consumption, the prospect of 2.5 billion vehicles and their impact on the environment is concerning. However, in this challenge lies great opportunities, especially for the US, to lead in the development of the next generation of alternative clean power generation as well as the accompanying distribution infrastructure and transportation systems. Alternative energy and related products can be the catalyst for the next economic revolution providing numerous good-paying, middle-class jobs for our citizens.
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:16 AM
 
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Not to worry Lincolnian, evidently its all a hoax perpetrated by Al Gore,Global use of 100 million barrels of oil per day apparently has no climatic consequence.
Sarcasm off.
Good facts and figures Lincolnian.
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:55 AM
 
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I'm not suggesting that it is not possible this can't make a difference but just for a little perspective if the atmosphere was $100 the atmospheric concentration of CO2 at the beginning of the last century was 3 cents and it's increased to 4 cents today.
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Old 12-07-2014, 06:09 AM
 
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Alternative energy and related products can be the catalyst for the next economic revolution providing numerous good-paying, middle-class jobs for our citizens.
Without a cost competitive alternative you are not going to create jobs, you are going to lose them. The cost of energy affects every industry.

Look at what we are doing now, we subsidize production in the solar and wind sectors. Most of those manufacturing jobs have gone overseas. We are effectively subsidizing production in China and in the meantime they are putting online a new coal plant every week or two.
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Old 12-07-2014, 06:35 AM
 
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I'm not suggesting that it is not possible this can't make a difference but just for a little perspective if the atmosphere was $100 the atmospheric concentration of CO2 at the beginning of the last century was 3 cents and it's increased to 4 cents today.
The average depth of the ocean is 2.3 miles. A one percent increase in that (120 feet) would have a huge impact. Your analogy is EPIC FAIL.
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Old 12-07-2014, 07:06 AM
 
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The average depth of the ocean is 2.3 miles. A one percent increase in that (120 feet) would have a huge impact. Your analogy is EPIC FAIL.
LOL Math, FAIL

It's not 1 percent, the increase is .01 of a percent.

You need to multiply by .0001

As you like to say "work harder".

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Old 12-07-2014, 07:20 AM
 
Location: On The Road Full Time RVing
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I came upon a STEM estimation problem this past week involving the amount of carbon emitted in one gallon of gas. The problem asked how many gallons of carbon are emitted per tank of gas if the tank is 14.5 and each gallon emits 19.62 pounds of CO2? 15 x 20 = 300 lbs. To put it into perspective, I looked up the number of vehicles in the world and found that it surpassed 1 billion in 2010 with the US possessing nearly 1/4 (1.3 vehicles per person) of the world's vehicles. I was familiar with the US figure because I've used that data before but was surprised that the total number of vehicles wasn't higher (a good thing). If one tank of gas is used per week this amounts to approximately 300 billion pounds of manufactured CO2 added to the naturally-produced levels each week. China has the second largest number of vehicles at 78 million. If the current vehicle growth rate continues in China, India and other growing countries it is estimated that there will be 2.5 billion vehicles in 2050. Even with reduced emissions and fuel consumption, the prospect of 2.5 billion vehicles and their impact on the environment is concerning. However, in this challenge lies great opportunities, especially for the US, to lead in the development of the next generation of alternative clean power generation as well as the accompanying distribution infrastructure and transportation systems. Alternative energy and related products can be the catalyst for the next economic revolution providing numerous good-paying, middle-class jobs for our citizens.
If there is no answer to your problem are you going to go back to walking every where >

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Old 12-07-2014, 10:48 AM
 
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How many gallons of carbon does AL Gore's and Seinfeld's private jets emit per hour of use?

Seinfeld was quoted right here on this forum as some word of wit prophet. Al Gore? Well now, if the very people leading the charge can't do without consuming hundreds of times the fossil fuels that the average person does, what does that say?

Why is it that the very people here sounding the alarm remain silent when their acknowledged leaders in the field are called into question.

Where is the acknowledgement that those two people are responsible for more pollution than 100 people who live outside of their exclusive lifestyles? Where is the condemnation about their "excessive" lifestyles and lack of conservation ethics?

The same old do as I say not as I do.
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Old 12-07-2014, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Central CT, sometimes FL and NH.
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We put a man on the moon by the end of a decade, we certainly can develop better power generation systems and transportation options to move people. The fact that the vast majority of people drive alone to work and live within a reasonable commuting distance allows for the opportunity for single driver vehicles that emit less carbon and pollutants and use considerably less resources in their production and use.
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Old 12-07-2014, 10:55 AM
 
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The average depth of the ocean is 2.3 miles. A one percent increase in that (120 feet) would have a huge impact. Your analogy is EPIC FAIL.
That is a hypothetical and a complete failure to remotely correlate it to reality.

An 6 mile in diameter asteroid hitting the earth would also have a huge impact. Sooner or later it will happen. According to scientists, it has happened before right?
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