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Old 11-14-2017, 04:48 PM
 
Location: DC
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Big Brother is saving us yet again! Well, wait, not so fast...


https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-end-injuries/
We all know that. Red light cameras reduce more problematic side collisions.
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Old 11-14-2017, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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We all know that. Red light cameras reduce more problematic side collisions.
You have proof of that?

In my area, we spent a fortune putting up red light cams, but then some politician's daughter got caught speeding, so he had them all turned off after he sued the city for "recording someone under the age of 17 without their parent's written consent" and he won. So now, we have cameras up, but not on because of a legal technicality.
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:22 PM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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See how logic works Guido?
Great--- except for one thing-- Antarctica ain't getting warmer it's been getting a little colder over the past 40 yrs:


But then you must know this because you don't ignore the science.

What you were actually describing is the negative feedback system that prevents the weather/climate from getting too far away from its strange attractor basin. That's how the fear mongers of the AGW sect are preying on naive emotion, not science. We have no "climate change" to worry about. The system takes care of itself.

Have another swig of the KoolAide.
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:12 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Great--- except for one thing-- Antarctica ain't getting warmer it's been getting a little colder over the past 40 yrs:


But then you must know this because you don't ignore the science.

What you were actually describing is the negative feedback system that prevents the weather/climate from getting too far away from its strange attractor basin. That's how the fear mongers of the AGW sect are preying on naive emotion, not science. We have no "climate change" to worry about. The system takes care of itself.

Have another swig of the KoolAide.
Would you like to give us some actual links for all your graphs?
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I think those graphs may be coming from archives from here: https://www.nsstc.uah.edu/climate/ or they could be coming from Roy Spencer's blog / website, which also has the graphs: Roy Spencer, PhD
BOTH of those websites have up to date graphs to 2017.

Some wiki info about the UAH satellite temperature dataset and its designers Spencer and Christy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UAH_sa...rature_dataset

Some information about Roy Spencer, one of the designers of the UAH satellite temperature dataset: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Spencer_(scientist)


He's a good scientist but until recent months he's been something of a denier too.

More to the point though, and oddly enough, the graphs that Guido has been posting are the old ones up to 2010, they are 7 years out of date. I don't know why he isn't posting the most recent years' graphs. The updated UAH reports and graphs up to October 2017 coming from both the university and from Spencer's website are showing increases in temperature anomalies for the past 7 years, particularly in the past 3 years and most particularly in the past year. Even Roy Spencer and his colleague John Christy are admitting they are surprised at the temperature increases now. Just a guess, but maybe that's why Guido is only posting the old graphs, because they don't show what is happening now and are more fitting to his own bias, albeit out of date.

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Guido, wake up and look around! You need to stay up to date, you are nearly 20 years behind in some of the data you've been relying on. Antarctica is actually warming rapidly, it's not getting colder.

And the Arctic permafrost is ALL decaying into liquefied mud now running into the Arctic ocean, it's full of weird bacteria and viruses from the past and is releasing huge amounts of co2 and methane into the atmosphere.

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Old 11-15-2017, 05:07 AM
 
Location: DC
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Great--- except for one thing-- Antarctica ain't getting warmer it's been getting a little colder over the past 40 yrs:


But then you must know this because you don't ignore the science.

What you were actually describing is the negative feedback system that prevents the weather/climate from getting too far away from its strange attractor basin. That's how the fear mongers of the AGW sect are preying on naive emotion, not science. We have no "climate change" to worry about. The system takes care of itself.

Have another swig of the KoolAide.
The real graph.

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Old 11-15-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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Demagogues on the right had all the data they needed before the first shred of it was presented to them. They know it's all just a big liberal conspiracy, and to them, that's the end of the matter.
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Old 11-15-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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Guido, wake up and look around! You need to stay up to date, you are nearly 20 years behind in some of the data you've been relying on. Antarctica is actually warming rapidly, it's not getting colder.

And the Arctic permafrost is ALL decaying into liquefied mud now running into the Arctic ocean, it's full of weird bacteria and viruses from the past and is releasing huge amounts of co2 and methane into the atmosphere.

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But it isn't caused by "global warming" and there isn't a thing man can do about it.

Study bolsters theory of heat source under Antarctica.
https://phys.org/news/2017-11-bolste...ntarctica.html
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:57 AM
 
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Arctic. Antarctic. Let's all just be confused.
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Old 11-15-2017, 04:52 PM
 
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The problems there since have come from the fact that Hugo Chavez died young and without having found anyone qualified to take his place.
They ran the oil industry built by private industry into the ground funding socialistic programs and to top it off it is currently in debt up to it's eyeballs. None of that money was reinvested into the industry or other industries. Throw in prevalent corruption and you have a system doomed to failure.

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