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Old 08-15-2019, 02:04 PM
 
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A Canadian company says it has found a way to reuse plastic by converting it into fuel. But one environmental group cautions that the approach doesn’t truly solve the plastics problem.
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Old 08-16-2019, 03:48 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Because China stopped taking our waste 'recyclables' recycling is practically dead in the US at a time when we are producing more waste than we ever have produced: https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...-trash/584131/. We need new technologies and we need them now; not tomorrow. Here is what they are doing in Copenhagen: https://www.wired.com/2013/11/mttrashmore/.

For decades we were all told how our world would end if we did not recycle. Many of us diligently sorted out our waste and placed it in the proper containers or hauled it off to the our local recycling center. Now those recycling centers are closed or closing and our municipalities want to fine us for the wrong materials in the wrong containers. On top of that; America has moved away from the large malls to online shopping that produces even more waste in the packaging.

I applaud any movement to utilize our waste. I just worry that it is too little; too late. I would also like to know more about the plastic to fuel process as far what kind of waste does their process produce? And, of course, we would have to know how much it cost to build and maintain compared to the value of the fuel it produces. I would presume that processes like the plastics to fuel and the Copenhagen incinerator are not as selective in the plastics or waste they consume?
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Old 08-17-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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Because China stopped taking our waste 'recyclables' recycling is practically dead in the US at a time when we are producing more waste than we ever have produced: https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...-trash/584131/. We need new technologies and we need them now; not tomorrow. Here is what they are doing in Copenhagen: https://www.wired.com/2013/11/mttrashmore/.

For decades we were all told how our world would end if we did not recycle. Many of us diligently sorted out our waste and placed it in the proper containers or hauled it off to the our local recycling center. Now those recycling centers are closed or closing and our municipalities want to fine us for the wrong materials in the wrong containers. On top of that; America has moved away from the large malls to online shopping that produces even more waste in the packaging.

I applaud any movement to utilize our waste. I just worry that it is too little; too late. I would also like to know more about the plastic to fuel process as far what kind of waste does their process produce? And, of course, we would have to know how much it cost to build and maintain compared to the value of the fuel it produces. I would presume that processes like the plastics to fuel and the Copenhagen incinerator are not as selective in the plastics or waste they consume?





This fungus eats plastic, wonder how it can be used to at least get rid of some plastic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pestalotiopsis_microspora
https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/fu...gensis-plastic
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Old 08-17-2019, 02:57 PM
 
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This fungus eats plastic, wonder how it can be used to at least get rid of some plastic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pestalotiopsis_microspora
https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/fu...gensis-plastic
We need these scientist to come up with new solutions and we need them to do it now. My feeling is one of our biggest problems is that we let everybody else solve our problems. What I mean by that is, that if NYC had a problem with the waste, they would simply dump it in the ocean or ship it out of state. Sometimes it would be sent to China. Of course the laws and regulations changed and what was accepted by other states and countries or dumped in the ocean also changed. My feeling is that whoever produces the waste should forsed to find a way to reprocess that waste. Nobody really wants a new landfill in their back yard. If the waste 'generators' had to deal with what they generated I think change would have come quick.
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:45 PM
 
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Plastic can already be used in a mass burn incinerator.
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Old 08-19-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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Exactly right....It's another example of ignorance standing in the way of the right course of action. Mention "incinerator" and the partially educated/non-analytical thinkers have a fit. NIMBY.
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Old 08-20-2019, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Exactly right....It's another example of ignorance standing in the way of the right course of action. Mention "incinerator" and the partially educated/non-analytical thinkers have a fit. NIMBY.
In post #2 I mentioned the Copenhagen incinerator. It features a ski slope and a restaurant on the top. They are working to change the way people think about incinerators. I believe that I also read that they are worried that they might not get enough garbage? But I hope it works for them so that other companies around the globe will also burn.
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Old 08-20-2019, 10:05 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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In post #2 I mentioned the Copenhagen incinerator. It features a ski slope and a restaurant on the top. They are working to change the way people think about incinerators. I believe that I also read that they are worried that they might not get enough garbage? But I hope it works for them so that other companies around the globe will also burn.
Incinerating plastic? Somebody please tell me what happens with the exhaust from that process; I wouldn't want to breathe it. How do they handle it?
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Old 08-20-2019, 11:03 AM
 
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Incinerating plastic? Somebody please tell me what happens with the exhaust from that process; I wouldn't want to breathe it. How do they handle it?
Here is a newer and longer article on the Copenhagen incinerator: https://qz.com/1560143/copenhagens-s...s-a-ski-slope/. They did not say how the restaurant is doing on top of the incinerator; but they claim that there is very little smell at the top.
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:53 PM
 
Location: DC
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Incinerating plastic? Somebody please tell me what happens with the exhaust from that process; I wouldn't want to breathe it. How do they handle it?
Do you actually know what is in plastic? Why would you be abnormally alarmed? All exhaust products should be scrubbed to remove atmosphere contaminants, but I don't think there is much coming off generic plastic. Certainly better than disposing of it in the ocean.
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