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how do you feel about geoengineering to influence earth's weather? some famous rich guys are for it. would aerial spraying of reflective nanoparticles be something you would support? the theory being that reflecting some sunlight away from earth will cool it.
this strategy seems to be gaining support. where do you come down?
That any time humans attempt to control or tamper with nature, it doesn't work out. I wish we would just stop and learn to adapt to our environment rather than try to change it, with unintended consequences.
That any time humans attempt to control or tamper with nature, it doesn't work out. I wish we would just stop and learn to adapt to our environment rather than try to change it, with unintended consequences.
Things to consider--
A) Biodiversity, therefore, stability of the ecosystem DEcreases as one moves from equator (warmer) towards the poles (cooler). Warmer is better, so do we really want to make things cooler?
2) Weather,and c!imate in general, is a mathematically chaotic situation, so even some very minor perturbation of a factor involved in determining c!imate could have huge effects in outcome (the "butterfly effect"). Because we have absolutely no way of knowing what the introduction of a novel factor will do, we certainly can't know how much of it we should introduce.
The risk of unwanted, probably disastrous consequences surely outweighs any possible (and doubtful) benefits of maneuvers great enough to influence weather on a world-wide scale.
Those proposing any such measure demonstrate an incredible undeserved hubris and an equally large ignorance....proving once again that you don't have to be smart to be rich.
I don't support it. It's interference. And I don't want to be breathing in reflective nanoparticle garbage that humans put into the atmosphere. It's bad enough that we're already breathing in and ingesting all the plastic particles and other garbage that we've introduced into the environment.
We need to stop trying to be arrogant gods experimenting and interfering with nature and the way our planet works and should be focusing on correcting and cleaning up the toxic mess that we've already made because of our interference.
Things to consider--
A) Biodiversity, therefore, stability of the ecosystem DEcreases as one moves from equator (warmer) towards the poles (cooler). Warmer is better, so do we really want to make things cooler?
2) Weather,and c!imate in general, is a mathematically chaotic situation, so even some very minor perturbation of a factor involved in determining c!imate could have huge effects in outcome (the "butterfly effect"). Because we have absolutely no way of knowing what the introduction of a novel factor will do, we certainly can't know how much of it we should introduce.
The risk of unwanted, probably disastrous consequences surely outweighs any possible (and doubtful) benefits of maneuvers great enough to influence weather on a world-wide scale.
Those proposing any such measure demonstrate an incredible undeserved hubris and an equally large ignorance....proving once again that you don't have to be smart to be rich.
One would think that with all the technology available to us and the obscene wealth resulting for some that those guys and girls would run some simulators before throwing the ideas like that..
What could go wrong?
The Chinese as an example had found out what happens if they win the war on flies.
(Spoiler: not good; the famine had followed)
We exercise incredibly stupid policies with disastrous results all the time and using technology only to find out what everyone had for dinner last night or watching cute pets videos instead of building simulators and figuring out all the cons of social and business initiatives before we stepped into some doggy doo.
Right conclusion, LOOk but wrong suggestion...Computer simulations only tell you what you told them to tell you after you code in a program that may not be an accurate reflection of the real world and then feed in data that may not be accurate (Cf- "Climategate")anyway.
That's something the Warmists seem to ignore. The ONLY thing they have going to support their position is climate models that have proven over time to be uselessly wrong.
Right conclusion, LOOk but wrong suggestion...Computer simulations only tell you what you told them to tell you after you code in a program that may not be an accurate reflection of the real world and then feed in data that may not be accurate (Cf- "Climategate")anyway.
That's something the Warmists seem to ignore. The ONLY thing they have going to support their position is climate models that have proven over time to be uselessly wrong.
Agree, GIGO.
However, there are ways widely used in engineering (nuclear, defense, etc) to avoid this scenario.
how do you feel about geoengineering to influence earth's weather? some famous rich guys are for it. would aerial spraying of reflective nanoparticles be something you would support? the theory being that reflecting some sunlight away from earth will cool it.
this strategy seems to be gaining support. where do you come down?
I am not in support of geoengineering even though it has been going on for long time for various reasons (military communications applications / economic weapon-ization etc..)
I am not in support of geoengineering even though it has been going on for long time for various reasons (military communications applications / economic weapon-ization etc..)
Geo-enginering up til now has been local/small scale with little effect outside the target area.
Most of the damage to our riparian ecosystems with loss of significant portions of our fish,amphibian, aquatic mammals and brds has been caused by habitat disruption by the Army Corps of Engineers in their attempts to prevent flooding by dredging and building dams.
There is some data now that lage wind farms are disrupting precipitation patterns by extracting energy from the wind.
What the knuckleheads are proposing is world wide disruption weather patterns by blocking sunlight over the entire globe. How utterly stupid.
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