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Old 08-06-2009, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Winsted, Ct.
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Cash for Clunkers for cars program is doing well. But... how about a Cash for Clunkers Air Conditioner program? My window unit has a EER of 8.6 I would love to get a rebate to trade it in for one that has a EER close to 11.0. Current unit is 6000 BTU. I got another that is a 5000 BTU and a EER of 6.0!


How many of these old clunkers are still being used in the low income community? LOTS! I know personally as I am low income. The Local transfer station wants me to pay $15 for EACH unit to recycle.... Hey! give me a rebate towards a new AC. Many of these units are improperly abandoned as the people cannot afford the $15 disposal fee. the EER 6.0 unit is sitting in storage in my living room closet. the 8.6 EER unit is in use in my bedroom.

I live in Winsted, Connecticut btw.
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Old 08-06-2009, 07:03 PM
 
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How about the government doesn't collect that tax from me in the first place hmmm?
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Winsted, Ct.
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How about the government doesn't collect that tax from me in the first place hmmm?
I wouldn't mind if I could trade it in at Wal-Mart for a new unit like you do with Cash for Clunkers by bringing the old car to the new car dealership. Instead of going out of my way to get the transfer station, paying the $15 and then go buy a new unit, with $15 less to spend on it.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:01 AM
 
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Cash for Clunkers for cars program is doing well. But... how about a Cash for Clunkers Air Conditioner program? My window unit has a EER of 8.6 I would love to get a rebate to trade it in for one that has a EER close to 11.0. Current unit is 6000 BTU. I got another that is a 5000 BTU and a EER of 6.0!


How many of these old clunkers are still being used in the low income community? LOTS! I know personally as I am low income. The Local transfer station wants me to pay $15 for EACH unit to recycle.... Hey! give me a rebate towards a new AC. Many of these units are improperly abandoned as the people cannot afford the $15 disposal fee. the EER 6.0 unit is sitting in storage in my living room closet. the 8.6 EER unit is in use in my bedroom.

I live in Winsted, Connecticut btw.
Thats a great idea.

IMO, the cash for clunkers for car program rewards mid to upper income individuals, some who bought bulky low mileage SUVs who are getting a deep discount for a new car. I mean if you can afford a new car, even after this discount, you have money.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:12 AM
 
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Thats a great idea.

IMO, the cash for clunkers for car program rewards mid to upper income individuals, some who bought bulky low mileage SUVs who are getting a deep discount for a new car. I mean if you can afford a new car, even after this discount, you have money.
True, but the way I understand the program, it's not about "helping the poor," it's about stimulating the economy:
*help the car dealers sell more cars = not closing dealerships, keep people in jobs
*help the manufacturers have a need to produce more cars = more jobs in already depressed areas get a life line
*help the environment a bit by putting more fuel efficient cars on the road


On a personal level, I got my hybrid in 2005 and before that always drove small, fuel efficient (old!) cars, so this program doesn't do anything for me, but I can see it's value on a more global level. While a few more fuel efficient cars on the road isn't going to stop climate change on its own, it's a step in the right direction and helps people to realize fuel efficient cars aren't bad


I like the a/c idea though. FWIW - my city offers significant rebates for new more efficient a/c units. Maybe you should look into that?
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:17 PM
 
Location: South of Maine
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Because ALL window units are clunkers!
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Heartland Florida
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I will be glad to take your junk air conditioners for free. They are a good source of copper and chloroflourocarbons to recycle. Or you can just tear apart your own and take the metal to the scrap yard. My air conditioning system is built from junk, but is free of "ozone depleting" chemicals, just ammonia is used.
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Winsted, Ct.
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I will be glad to take your junk air conditioners for free. They are a good source of copper and chloroflourocarbons to recycle. Or you can just tear apart your own and take the metal to the scrap yard. My air conditioning system is built from junk, but is free of "ozone depleting" chemicals, just ammonia is used.
I rekcon you still use a mechanical compressor though. Or have you gone with using an absorbsion using using either an electric heater or a gas flame to boil the ammonia.
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Old 08-09-2009, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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How about all you tax payers out there buy me a new washing machine. Mine needs a new clutch assembly. We'll call the program 'cash for clucker washing machines'.
And while we're at it, how about buying me a new refrigerator. I'd like one with ice maker on the door. We'll call the program 'cash for clucker refrigerators'. Come to think of it, how about a new HDTV. We'll have a cash for clucker analog TV.
You realize the $4500 for cluckers is your money, right?
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Some progressive cities are already providing rebates and tax incentives to help people replace their old HVAC systems, as well as sealing duct leaks, adding insulation. Our city owns the electric utility and operates it for the benefit of the community, they recognize that the rebates offset the cost of building new electrical generating facilities. They offer rebates and loans to assist customers with numerous energy efficiency improvements. Residential Rebates

In July 2007 I had the 18 year old SEER 8, HVAC completely replaced on my 1989 house with a new SEER 16 unit.

I received the following rebates:
City of Austin........................ $1536
Texas Gas ........................... $ 396
IRS "Tier 2" ......................... $ 300 this was a tax deduction rather then a rebate
Total Rebates....................... $2,232

Since the installation of the new HVAC our peak electrical consumption has been only 65% of previous years and our gas consumption has been 89% of previous years. I need to calculate the savings in dollars, have not done that yet. But I'm confident the HVAC improvements are paying for themselves.
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